Urgent need to get rifling voids of rifle barrel checked for blood and DNA...

[lookout]

Nevill would keep his cards close to his chest, and June was ill, unsettling the teenage boy in that close, rural backdrop, then Sheila's illness followed. Encased in a vacuum which fitted like a shroud, his only meaningful existence now without the confines of the Farm, and turning to central nervous system stimulants to get him though the daily grind, he slowly came to understand the parental signs and gestures, their concealed disappointment and the reason he had been placed there, then bent on overcoming his parents' wishes and determined to overturn their whole justification by an annulment of the will at whatever cost.

Latterly when June was ill,Nevill had reversed roles in that instead of running after Sheila as he'd done,he'd began to show sympathy towards his wife for a change which didn't go down well with Sheila and so she'd have felt utterly alone.No husband,the risk of losing her boys and now her father with his thoughts towards his wife's health and welfare. Sheila's mind hadn't been quipped to deal with blow after blow and had realised  and chosen a way out of it all.

[Jane]

Latterly when June was ill,Nevill had reversed roles in that instead of running after Sheila as he'd done,he'd began to show sympathy towards his wife for a change which didn't go down well with Sheila and so she'd have felt utterly alone.No husband,the risk of losing her boys and now her father with his thoughts towards his wife's health and welfare. Sheila's mind hadn't been quipped to deal with blow after blow and had realised  and chosen a way out of it all.

Aww. What a sad little story Trouble is, it falls apart because Sheila didn't actually live at WHF, so would be unlikely to know how Nevill was interacting with June on a daily basis. I have my doubts about Nevill "running after Sheila". I suspect it was Sheila who ran after him when she needed something.

[Steve_uk]

Latterly when June was ill,Nevill had reversed roles in that instead of running after Sheila as he'd done,he'd began to show sympathy towards his wife for a change which didn't go down well with Sheila and so she'd have felt utterly alone.No husband,the risk of losing her boys and now her father with his thoughts towards his wife's health and welfare. Sheila's mind hadn't been quipped to deal with blow after blow and had realised  and chosen a way out of it all.

I think that's possible though unlikely. I don't remember Sheila telling anyone that her late night telephone calls to her father had stopped, and then of course there was the allowance shortly to be drawn up in her favour courtesy of June, who may have got the idea from the local vicar. A friend Jane Robinson and Michael both remarked she seemed more upbeat that last July, though with Sheila the despondency was always lurking with the self-doubt, and she remained vulnerable to the lashing of anybody's tongue.

[lookout]

Aww. What a sad little story Trouble is, it falls apart because Sheila didn't actually live at WHF, so would be unlikely to know how Nevill was interacting with June on a daily basis. I have my doubts about Nevill "running after Sheila". I suspect it was Sheila who ran after him when she needed something.

Sheila used to ring her father a lot during the early hours,for someone to talk to,so his sleep must have been disturbed on many an occasion.
I don't doubt that during the short-lived stay at WHF prior to the tragedies that Sheila thought that things were the same as ever between her and her father until she'd learnt that her mother was visiting her GP regularly for whatever reason,though Nevill thought it was a good enough reason to shower his wife with the sympathy for once and help he'd once willingly given to his daughter,which obviously Sheila hadn't readily agreed with.

One time when Sheila was staying at WHF during a convalescing period June had remarked to Sheila as not having been the only one who was unwell. In other words,little sympathy came from her mother so on the night of the 7th Sheila repaid them all back by shooting them all dead.

[Caroline]

Latterly when June was ill,Nevill had reversed roles in that instead of running after Sheila as he'd done,he'd began to show sympathy towards his wife for a change which didn't go down well with Sheila and so she'd have felt utterly alone.No husband,the risk of losing her boys and now her father with his thoughts towards his wife's health and welfare. Sheila's mind hadn't been quipped to deal with blow after blow and had realised  and chosen a way out of it all.

I'm sure you meant to type a 'perhaps' at the front of that post Lookout?

[Jane]

Sheila used to ring her father a lot during the early hours,for someone to talk to,so his sleep must have been disturbed on many an occasion.
I don't doubt that during the short-lived stay at WHF prior to the tragedies that Sheila thought that things were the same as ever between her and her father until she'd learnt that her mother was visiting her GP regularly for whatever reason,though Nevill thought it was a good enough reason to shower his wife with the sympathy for once and help he'd once willingly given to his daughter,which obviously Sheila hadn't readily agreed with.

One time when Sheila was staying at WHF during a convalescing period June had remarked to Sheila as not having been the only one who was unwell. In other words,little sympathy came from her mother so on the night of the 7th Sheila repaid them all back by shooting them all dead.

What, exactly does "a lot" mean, Lookout? Do we KNOW how many times she called her father? Given that it was a family which held secrets, I can't see them sharing with Sheila, ANYTHING which might give her extra cause for concern.

 Most people who suffer with depression are hugely self oriented. I've no doubt that Sheila was the same. It may have been, one one occasion, that June, who I imagine to have been a bit of a martyr, was fed up with Sheila's me,me,me stance, especially if she hadn't noticed that June was unwell.

[lookout]

I'm sure you meant to type a 'perhaps' at the front of that post Lookout?

No,I don't think so.

[Jane]

No,I don't think so.

But you don't know that it's true, do you, Lookout?

[lookout]

But you don't know that it's true, do you, Lookout?

I'd lay bets that it was half true.

[Jane]

I'd lay bets that it was half true.

Any family dynamic is up for grabs, but I think every effort would have been made to mollify Sheila during the short time she was with them.

[lookout]

What, exactly does "a lot" mean, Lookout? Do we KNOW how many times she called her father? Given that it was a family which held secrets, I can't see them sharing with Sheila, ANYTHING which might give her extra cause for concern.

 Most people who suffer with depression are hugely self oriented. I've no doubt that Sheila was the same. It may have been, one one occasion, that June, who I imagine to have been a bit of a martyr, was fed up with Sheila's me,me,me stance, especially if she hadn't noticed that June was unwell.

And many people who suffer depression don't sleep much either ! So we'd have had two wide awake women that night-----------arguing.

[Caroline]

Sheila used to ring her father a lot during the early hours,for someone to talk to,so his sleep must have been disturbed on many an occasion.
I don't doubt that during the short-lived stay at WHF prior to the tragedies that Sheila thought that things were the same as ever between her and her father until she'd learnt that her mother was visiting her GP regularly for whatever reason,though Nevill thought it was a good enough reason to shower his wife with the sympathy for once and help he'd once willingly given to his daughter,which obviously Sheila hadn't readily agreed with.

One time when Sheila was staying at WHF during a convalescing period June had remarked to Sheila as not having been the only one who was unwell. In other words,little sympathy came from her mother so on the night of the 7th Sheila repaid them all back by shooting them all dead.

Said who?

[lookout]

Said who?

Shall we say---------books ? Then surely you would have already known that Sheila used to ring hm ?

[Caroline]

Shall we say---------books ? Then surely you would have already known that Sheila used to ring hm ?

I read that she called him ONCE - not regularly.

[Jane]

And many people who suffer depression don't sleep much either ! So we'd have had two wide awake women that night-----------arguing.

People in the grips of depression usually lack the mental strength and sense of self worth required to argue.