How it started

[Jane]

They seem to have an awful lot to say on the setup when this is the case, even down to telling police stuff on the windowsill was moved, very bizarre.

June probably was a creature of habit, so things may have been moved since Ann was last in the house to see them.

[Steve_uk]

They seem to have an awful lot to say on the setup when this is the case, even down to telling police stuff on the windowsill was moved, very bizarre.

Well that was housekeeper Jean Boutell, not the relatives.

[Lucy522]

Well that was housekeeper Jean Boutell, not the relatives.

I always thought it was Ann, my mistake

[lookout]

I always thought it was the police who'd moved items from the sill to test the window . Which seems more likely since it had been a day or two before the tragedy that the cleaner had been there.

[Adam]

Well that was housekeeper Jean Boutell, not the relatives.

Obviously Bamber moved items from around the kitchen window sill, just prior to exiting.

The only other explanation is the items had been moved during the kitchen fight. However there is nothing about these items being toppled over.

[David1819]

Obviously Bamber moved items from around the kitchen window sill, just prior to exiting.

The only other explanation is the items had been moved during the kitchen fight. However there is nothing about these items being toppled over.

Oh dear.

Photos taken on the day show many items on the Kitchen window sill. 

[Adam]

Oh dear.

Photos taken on the day show many items on the Kitchen window sill. 

Oh dear.

The crime scene pictures will be inside the kitchen.

Are you accusing Jean Boutell of lying under oath ?

Yesterday Lucy accused Mary Mugford of lying under oath. All supporters accuse Julie of spending hours in court lying under oath. Nugs accuses RB of lying under oath.

Everyone's lying under oath to get Bamber convicted.

[guest2181]

Oh dear.

The crime scene pictures will be inside the kitchen.

Are you accusing Jean Boutell of lying under oath ?

Yesterday Lucy accused Mary Mugford of lying under oath. All supporters accuse Julie of spending hours in court lying under oath. Nugs accuses RB of lying under oath.

Everyone's lying under oath to get Bamber convicted.

I think the police moved things around when cleaning up.

[maggie]

Oh dear.

The crime scene pictures will be inside the kitchen.

Are you accusing Jean Boutell of lying under oath ?

Yesterday Lucy accused Mary Mugford of lying under oath. All supporters accuse Julie of spending hours in court lying under oath. Nugs accuses RB of lying under oath.

Everyone's lying under oath to get Bamber convicted.

Do you not believe that people do lie under oath sometimes?

[maggie]

I think the police moved things around when cleaning up.

I agree Hartley, think that is generally accepted as the explanation.

[Jane]

Do you not believe that people do lie under oath sometimes?

Do you believe that most of the whole group of disparate witnesses will be in accord enough to lie?

[Adam]

I think the police moved things around when cleaning up.

After crime scene photos were taken. Which is standard protocol.

[Adam]

Do you not believe that people do lie under oath sometimes?

Everyone lied under oath in this case. Except Bamber.

Even the pathologist didn't say Sheila had any cuts on her. Roch & Bill kindly correcting him.

[guest2181]

After crime scene photos were taken. Which is standard protocol.

When did Bouttell mention that things had been moved?

[Adam]

When did Bouttell mention that things had been moved?

At trial.