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Offline Kaldin

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Re: How it started
« Reply #360 on: October 22, 2017, 05:02:PM »
You'll find them in archives.

There's nothing for James Richards and Mary Mugford for a start.

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« Reply #361 on: October 22, 2017, 05:04:PM »
Tbh, I'm absolutely fed up of trawling through the archives to find stuff that others should have posted in support of their claims.

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« Reply #362 on: October 22, 2017, 05:09:PM »
Tbh, I'm absolutely fed up of trawling through the archives to find stuff that others should have posted in support of their claims.

It used to be worse, before somebody put the transcripts library together.

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« Reply #363 on: October 22, 2017, 05:10:PM »
It used to be worse, before somebody put the transcripts library together.

They did a great job. It's just that it's quite long.

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« Reply #364 on: October 22, 2017, 05:11:PM »
Tbh, I'm absolutely fed up of trawling through the archives to find stuff that others should have posted in support of their claims.

I think others may feel the same. You'll find that, at some point, they probably have been posted.

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« Reply #365 on: October 22, 2017, 05:12:PM »
They did a great job. It's just that it's quite long.

There were a lot of witnesses.

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« Reply #366 on: October 22, 2017, 05:19:PM »
They did a great job. It's just that it's quite long.

It probably took the person a long time then.

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« Reply #367 on: October 22, 2017, 05:39:PM »
It probably took the person a long time then.

I imagine it to have been painstaking work, H. A labour of love.

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« Reply #368 on: October 22, 2017, 05:41:PM »
I imagine it to have been painstaking work, H. A labour of love.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #369 on: October 22, 2017, 06:47:PM »
That smile/smirk will soon be wiped off your clock  :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

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Re: How it started
« Reply #370 on: October 22, 2017, 07:54:PM »

Chapter 31, page 220 of Wilkes's book -

Julies mother Mary Mugford followed her daughter into the witness box.

She said 'Jeremy hated his mother & blamed her for turning Sheila mad. And he resented her for loving the twins more than him. Jeremy disliked his mother intensely & I felt he was more affectionate to me'.

'He used to call me mummy all the time. He offerred me his mothers small car which had been bought that Christmas. This was just after the shooting. A list had been drawn up and he was going to keep no momentoes, which I thought very strange. He wanted to sell everthing'.

'Jeremy resented his mother because she sent him away to boarding school. He never forgave her for that.

'Apparently she was a religious maniac'.

'A few months before the murders Jeremy had told me her mother was thinking of changing her will in favour of her grandsons, on whom she doted'.

'Jeremy never spoke to his mother & she never showed any affection towards him'.

'He often spoke of this'.

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The 'Countdown to Murder' also said June wanted to disinherit him after the caravan robbery.

How well did this woman really know Jeremy. She hardly saw him as far as I can make out so I’m not sure I would have believed much of what she said

Offline Lucy522

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Re: How it started
« Reply #371 on: October 22, 2017, 08:01:PM »
How well did this woman really know Jeremy. She hardly saw him as far as I can make out so I’m not sure I would have believed much of what she said


I call bullxxxt on this,
"Jeremy never spoke.to his mother"
Jesus desperate or What? Don't you think more would of been made of that by the relatives afterwards? Mary mugford is the only person who's ever said this.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #372 on: October 22, 2017, 08:28:PM »

I call bullxxxt on this,
"Jeremy never spoke.to his mother"
Jesus desperate or What? Don't you think more would of been made of that by the relatives afterwards? Mary mugford is the only person who's ever said this.
The relatives only met them for board meetings and a sherry on Boxing Day. They knew very little of what occurred behind the scenes at White House Farm.

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« Reply #373 on: October 22, 2017, 08:31:PM »
The relatives only met them for board meetings and a sherry on Boxing Day. They knew very little of what occurred behind the scenes at White House Farm.

I think that for many it's true that they're closer to their friends than their relatives.

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« Reply #374 on: October 22, 2017, 08:39:PM »
They seem to have an awful lot to say on the setup when this is the case, even down to telling police stuff on the windowsill was moved, very bizarre.