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Offline Jane

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Re: How it started
« Reply #345 on: October 22, 2017, 03:53:PM »
So you're working backwards. You have no evidence that there were problems before the murders, you're just assuming that he hated his family because he killed them.

What do you want as evidence? Presumably the testimony of Nevill's friend that an argument with Jeremy had reduced Nevill to tears isn't enough. The stories Jeremy told others isn't enough. How much more evidence is there of his scant regard for them than his shooting them?

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« Reply #346 on: October 22, 2017, 03:58:PM »
But he feigned interest in farming for the last two years of the victims' lives, to allow time for the murder preparations.

So how did anyone know that he disliked farming then if he put on a good act?

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« Reply #347 on: October 22, 2017, 03:59:PM »
What do you want as evidence? Presumably the testimony of Nevill's friend that an argument with Jeremy had reduced Nevill to tears isn't enough. The stories Jeremy told others isn't enough. How much more evidence is there of his scant regard for them than his shooting them?

No, it's not enough. There could be many reasons why Nevill was in tears - if it happened. What stories that he told others? Where are the statements?

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« Reply #348 on: October 22, 2017, 04:00:PM »
It was just an example - it could have been anything.

I know he got other jobs, so I don't know why he's being described as lazy and workshy by some people. They're the sort of jobs which someone would probably get tired of quite quickly though.

The point is - he knew that Nevill/June were buying land just because Ann asked them to, but he talked about that land in a way which suggested that he was interested in the caravan park, so maybe he might have preferred to get involved in that. I just don't see how he was being "forced" by Nevill to be a farm worker.

That's the whole point of working on a temporary basis. My friends children, before going to university, all worked at the same Little Chef on the A12 that Jeremy worked at. They were all offered managerial training if they chose to stay on. I think Jeremy liked jobs he could walk away from when he'd had enough or earned enough.

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« Reply #349 on: October 22, 2017, 04:01:PM »
That's the whole point of working on a temporary basis. My friends children, before going to university, all worked at the same Little Chef on the A12 that Jeremy worked at. They were all offered managerial training if they chose to stay on. I think Jeremy liked jobs he could walk away from when he'd had enough or earned enough.

Possibly, and that's not abnormal. Lots of people do a bit of job hopping.

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« Reply #350 on: October 22, 2017, 04:03:PM »
No, it's not enough. There could be many reasons why Nevill was in tears - if it happened. What stories that he told others? Where are the statements?

Whilst I'm certain you'll argue this point black and blue, it most certainly DID happen. I've explained the circumstances several times.

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« Reply #351 on: October 22, 2017, 04:04:PM »
That's another bit of proof he was a " killer "-------job-hopping. The list is getting longer.

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« Reply #352 on: October 22, 2017, 04:05:PM »
Possibly, and that's not abnormal. Lots of people do a bit of job hopping.

Why would he, Kaldin? He had a job lined up for him?

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« Reply #353 on: October 22, 2017, 04:07:PM »
So how did anyone know that he disliked farming then if he put on a good act?

I'm sure Bamber loved farming. After all he left 'Little Chef' & 'Sloppy Joes' so he could farm.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #354 on: October 22, 2017, 04:10:PM »
Pre massacre, Bamber would have been happy continuing his jolly ups abroad for the rest of his life.

However Nevill & June stopped financing this.
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Re: How it started
« Reply #355 on: October 22, 2017, 04:19:PM »
What happened about Clifton House? I mean, how much was it worth when Nevill made his Will?

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« Reply #356 on: October 22, 2017, 04:34:PM »
So how did anyone know that he disliked farming then if he put on a good act?
Because he blabbed to others out of earshot of those in the driving seat. Adam gave you a list already.

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« Reply #357 on: October 22, 2017, 04:55:PM »
Because he blabbed to others out of earshot of those in the driving seat. Adam gave you a list already.

This list? I hope he backs it up with statements.

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James Richards.
Mary Mugford.
Julie Mugford.
Ann Eaton.
Barbara Wilson.

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Re: How it started
« Reply #358 on: October 22, 2017, 05:00:PM »
A list of gutless individuals who all had to rely on each other to " get it right ".

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« Reply #359 on: October 22, 2017, 05:01:PM »
This list? I hope he backs it up with statements.

You'll find them in archives.