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Offline Lucy522

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« Reply #180 on: October 21, 2017, 10:20:PM »
But he was a city boy like his birth father. Tilling the soil was alien to him, and spending eight years in a cloistered rural educational environment must have been anathema as well.
Tilling the soil was all he was used to, he's been brought up in a farming environment, he never even knew his birth father

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« Reply #181 on: October 21, 2017, 10:20:PM »
But he was a city boy like his birth father. Tilling the soil was alien to him, and spending eight years in a cloistered rural educational environment must have been anathema as well.

How do you know that? If he'd been in charge he could have made others do all the work and just gone off for jaunts whenever he felt like it.

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« Reply #182 on: October 21, 2017, 10:21:PM »
http://behavioralscientist.org/myth-mental-illness-causes-mass-shootings/

I don't believe that every mass murder you've ever read has been comitted by someone with a mental illness.
I think that article is one for David to read..

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« Reply #183 on: October 21, 2017, 10:22:PM »
You have to be mentally unstable In some way to kill innocent children while they sleep, people of a sane mind don't do that, especially pre empted.

A psychopath would see anyone -no matter how young- as an impediment to them getting what they want.

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« Reply #184 on: October 21, 2017, 10:22:PM »
How do you know that? If he'd been in charge he could have made others do all the work and just gone off for jaunts whenever he felt like it.
I'm not sure farm work is like that. He might have got away with putting his feet up on the desk at Osea Road, but that business seemed to be the prerogative of the Speakman Boutflour dynasty. In any case he was attracted to the bright lights of London.
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« Reply #185 on: October 21, 2017, 10:23:PM »
It does seem a bit drastic to kill your entire family just to get all the money. If he'd killed Nevill he would have got quite a lot. OK, he would have to share it with Sheila, unless he carried on farming, but he would still have got enough.
I'm just not buying it, why kill ommocemt children while they slept for a pay cheque? He had plenty of opportunity to kill Neville if he wanted, could of even made it look like an accident, why go to the trouble of massacreing everyone?

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« Reply #186 on: October 21, 2017, 10:24:PM »
I think that article is one for David to read..

I read it a few days ago, but didn't think there was much point in posting it here because I thought that it was beyond obvious that everyone who kills isn't mentally ill and everyone who is mentally ill doesn't kill.


I'm just not buying it, why kill ommocemt children while they slept for a pay cheque? He had plenty of opportunity to kill Neville if he wanted, could of even made it look like an accident, why go to the trouble of massacreing everyone?

People kill for money. People do sick things for money. It happens.

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« Reply #187 on: October 21, 2017, 10:24:PM »
I think that article is one for David to read..

I'm going to read it just putting the little one to bed

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« Reply #188 on: October 21, 2017, 10:25:PM »
I'm just not buying it, why kill ommocemt children while they slept for a pay cheque? He had plenty of opportunity to kill Neville if he wanted, could of even made it look like an accident, why go to the trouble of massacreing everyone?
Your thinking seems to be framed in a similar vein to Julie's, but as has just been said: how do you possibly put yourself into the mind of a psychopath?
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« Reply #189 on: October 21, 2017, 10:26:PM »
I read it a few days ago, but didn't think there was much point in posting it here because I thought that it was beyond obvious that everyone who kills isn't mentally ill and everyone who is mentally ill doesn't kill.


People kill for money. People do sick things for money. It happens.
I accept what you've said, but surely you can agree that people of sane mind dont pre olan and committ mass murder?

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« Reply #190 on: October 21, 2017, 10:27:PM »
Your thinking seems to be framed in a similar vein to Julie's, but as has just been said: how do you possibly put yourself into the mind of a psychopath?
You dont, because I'm a functioning adult, therefore I know what is right and wrong and have enough restraint not to kill people.

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« Reply #191 on: October 21, 2017, 10:32:PM »
I accept what you've said, but surely you can agree that people of sane mind dont pre olan and committ mass murder?

Someone who is sane can be evil. Yes.

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« Reply #192 on: October 21, 2017, 10:35:PM »
Someone who is sane can be evil. Yes.
I agree, and also that sane people sometimes just snap, I don't agree someone who is of sound mind can plan and commit the mass murder of his whole family in a massive overkill attack

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« Reply #193 on: October 21, 2017, 10:43:PM »
I agree, and also that sane people sometimes just snap, I don't agree someone who is of sound mind can plan and commit the mass murder of his whole family in a massive overkill attack







Nor do I. Most people have the intelligence to hold back from any urge to inflict harm.

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« Reply #194 on: October 21, 2017, 10:43:PM »
I'm just not buying it, why kill ommocemt children while they slept for a pay cheque? He had plenty of opportunity to kill Neville if he wanted, could of even made it look like an accident, why go to the trouble of massacreing everyone?

But according to the terms of Nevill's will, Jeremy would have to satisfy the trustees that he was capable of running the farm before he inherited. There's also the fact that on Nevill's death, everything he had would have been June's. There would have to have been another murder.