Bullets fired and reloading

[guest154]

Roch's obviously passed these pictures onto Bamber's legal advisors & advised them no one has noticed Sheila's cuts. 

There will be an annoncement in the media soon from the Campaign Team that Sheila was covered in cuts & this shows she fought Nevill.

Her nightdress untouched as she read the bible, had a shower & changed after the massacre. Then dialled 999 at 6.09am.

Perhaps the CT will use this , but I doubt this will be used in any future appeal.

I also don't think there will ever be another appeal.

[Roch]

You have been shown the origional autopsy. Would it make any difference to you if someone neatly typed a copy? 

NO... I have not been shown the original PM report.  I have had sight of handwritten notes, which came via the CT to this forum.  I do not know whether the notes are complete.  They are not dated.  The only other thing I have seen is a statement dated within the case stewardship of Ainsley.  All statements were vetted by Ainsley... for the purpose of PROSECUTING. 

[Stephanie]

Perhaps the CT will use this , but I doubt this will be used in any future appeal.

I also don't think there will ever be another appeal.

You are right Mat, there will not be another appeal; it's as simple as that.

[Adam]

Perhaps the CT will use this , but I doubt this will be used in any future appeal.

I also don't think there will ever be another appeal.

 

[Roch]

Perhaps the CT will use this , but I doubt this will be used in any future appeal.

I also don't think there will ever be another appeal.

I wouldn't bother replying to him.  He just spouts repetitive, nonsensical remarks.   

There will not be another appeal.  The bar set by the 2002 appeal was deliberately high.  The authorities have a stranglehold on the case and can simply resort to rejecting submissions based on a technicality.  Similarly, they can impose impossible further requests that cannot be met nor funded within whatever deadline is set.  It is not the remit of the CCRC or the COA to seek the truth of what took place.   

[guest154]

There will not be another appeal.  The bar set by the 2002 appeal was deliberately high.  The authorities have a stranglehold on the case and can simply resort to rejecting submissions based on a technicality.  Similarly, they can impose impossible further requests that cannot be met nor funded within whatever deadline is set.  It is not the remit of the CCRC or the COA to seek the truth of what took place.

Happy we agree on something finally haha.

I wouldn't bother replying to him.  He just spouts repetitive, nonsensical remarks.   

Adam's always been okay with me personally to be honest.

[Stephanie]

I wouldn't bother replying to him.  He just spouts repetitive, nonsensical remarks.   

There will not be another appeal.  The bar set by the 2002 appeal was deliberately high.  The authorities have a stranglehold on the case and can simply resort to rejecting submissions based on a technicality.  Similarly, they can impose impossible further requests that cannot be met nor funded within whatever deadline is set.  It is not the remit of the CCRC or the COA to seek the truth of what took place.

Have you ever thought about submitting your findings to the CCRC Roch; bypass the CT

[Adam]

I wouldn't bother replying to him.  He just spouts repetitive, nonsensical remarks.   

There will not be another appeal.  The bar set by the 2002 appeal was deliberately high.  The authorities have a stranglehold on the case and can simply resort to rejecting submissions based on a technicality.  Similarly, they can impose impossible further requests that cannot be met nor funded within whatever deadline is set.  It is not the remit of the CCRC or the COA to seek the truth of what took place.

What's happened to you're evidence that shows 'Sheila is definately the killer'. That no one has seen ?

Oh yes. Nothing.

[Roch]

Yes they are his original notes made on the day of the autopsies. You can believe what you like but in the end this is your stumbling block not mine. Just because you refuse to take on board that these are his original notes it's not for me to convince you - I don't think anything would convince you.

What do you think were used at the first inquest?

The inquest was adjourned I think.  Then other events took over.

[Stephanie]

The inquest was adjourned I think.  Then other events took over.

What date was the inquest adjourned and what date was Bamber arrested

Also, what was the date JM went to police

[Caroline]

The inquest was adjourned I think.  Then other events took over.

No they weren't there was a verdict of four murders and a suicide.

[Roch]

Have you ever thought about submitting your findings to the CCRC Roch; bypass the CT

I don't really have any findings to submit.  JB's legal team have probably sought advice.

[Roch]

No they weren't there was a verdict of four murders and a suicide.

When was the coroner's verdict delivered?

[Caroline]

When was the coroner's verdict delivered?

about a week after the muders

[Roch]

What date was the inquest adjourned and what date was Bamber arrested

Also, what was the date JM went to police

Not certain, officially I've read something like 7th or 8th September for Mugford.  I've also read a claim she may have been arrested as early as the 5th or 6th.

Don't know about the inquest but for some reason 14th Aug sounds familiar regarding the opening.