Bullets fired and reloading

[David1819]

Nobody can say he didn't mention wounds, unless they can produce the original pm report from the period when police were dealing with coroner's inquest.  Scribbled notes referring to a lack of contaminates are not necessarily in the context of wounds.  Perhaps the plaster was a contaminate and this is why he mentions it? 

He had every reason to omit the wounds to Sheila and June under Ainsley.  Ainsley cannot succeed if Vanezis doesn't omit the wounds.  I suspect Stan Jones persuaded Vanezis that no phone call took place between Nevill and Jeremy and that he (Vanezis) needed to assist police to catch the devious Bamber.

Those "Scribbled notes" are the original PM report, to make matters worse for your theory they actually contain more details than the later typed up one.

[lookout]

Wasn't the pic of Nevill's arm with the abrasions missing from the jury/judge ?

[Roch]

Those "Scribbled notes" are the original PM report, to make matters worse for your theory they actually contain more details than the later typed up one.

No they're not.  What if the Coroner had asked for sight of the pathology report?  Do you honestly believe that Miller would have just handed Tompkins some scribbled notes from Vanezis?

[lookout]

Vanezis hadn't mentioned about the marks on Nevill's arm in his pm report. ?? Even though it was said that the indentations had been consistent with someones long fingernails .

So if Vanezis hadn't attached any importance to those marks,he wasn't gong to go looking for a " few cuts,scratches or other injuries " other than bullet marks.

[David1819]

No they're not. 

Yes they are.

What if the Coroner had asked for sight of the pathology report?  Do you honestly believe that Miller would have just handed Tompkins some scribbled notes from Vanezis?

Do you honestly believe those notes could not be neatly typed out later? The handwritten version is all the more proof of authenticity. Those "scribbled notes" mention details such as Sheila's graze wound on her abdomen and surgical scaring on her chest. There is no mention of a mauled arm because it was never in such a state.

[David1819]

Vanezis hadn't mentioned about the marks on Nevill's arm in his pm report.

Yes he did.

[Caroline]

No they're not. What if the Coroner had asked for sight of the pathology report?  Do you honestly believe that Miller would have just handed Tompkins some scribbled notes from Vanezis?

Yes they are! The pathology report was typed up from his notes and would have been used at the inquest which was held BEFORE Bamber became a suspect!

[lookout]

Yes he did.

It says not in the Met Police. R v Bamber  Court Bundle ?

[Roch]

Yes they are! The pathology report was typed up from his notes and would have been used at the inquest which was held BEFORE Bamber became a suspect!

David & Caroline... No it is not. 

You do not know whether the handwritten notes have survived in full. 

You do not know whether Vanezis used a dictaphone as well as scribbling notes down.

The pathology report would have been a typed document and would have probably been required for inquest proceedings in August. 

The only typed document we have appears to be the statement dated 30/9/85, eights weeks after the killings; and produced when the case was under the stewardship of Ainsley & Jones (who attempted to interfere with Vanezis and influence his views).

Unless you two can show me the original, intact pathology report from August '85, prior to when Jeremy officially became a suspect, then your claims are not bonafide, imho.

I'm sure you will exercise your right to disagree.

[Roch]

Wasn't the pic of Nevill's arm with the abrasions missing from the jury/judge ?

I think I read in the solicitors' complaints letter that they were unaware of those images?  Not certain.

[Caroline]

David & Caroline... No it is not. 

You do not know whether the handwritten notes have survived in full. 

You do not know whether Vanezis used a dictaphone as well as scribbling notes down.

The pathology report would have been a typed document and would have probably been required for inquest proceedings in August. 

The only typed document we have appears to be the statement dated 30/9/85, eights weeks after the killings; and produced when the case was under the stewardship of Ainsley & Jones (who attempted to interfere with Vanezis and influence his views).

Unless you two can show me the original, intact pathology report from August '85, prior to when Jeremy officially became a suspect, then your claims are not bonafide, imho.

I'm sure you will exercise your right to disagree.

Yes they are his original notes made on the day of the autopsies. You can believe what you like but in the end this is your stumbling block not mine. Just because you refuse to take on board that these are his original notes it's not for me to convince you - I don't think anything would convince you.

What do you think were used at the first inquest?

[Kaldin]

Is there a date on the handwritten notes? I couldn't see one .

[David1819]

David & Caroline... No it is not. 

You do not know whether the handwritten notes have survived in full. 

You do not know whether Vanezis used a dictaphone as well as scribbling notes down.

The pathology report would have been a typed document and would have probably been required for inquest proceedings in August. 

The only typed document we have appears to be the statement dated 30/9/85, eights weeks after the killings; and produced when the case was under the stewardship of Ainsley & Jones (who attempted to interfere with Vanezis and influence his views).

Unless you two can show me the original, intact pathology report from August '85, prior to when Jeremy officially became a suspect, then your claims are not bonafide, imho.

I'm sure you will exercise your right to disagree.

You have been shown the origional autopsy. Would it make any difference to you if someone neatly typed a copy? 

[Caroline]

Is there a date on the handwritten notes? I couldn't see one .

No me either but I have seen them referenced elsewhere.

[Adam]

Roch's obviously passed these pictures onto Bamber's legal advisors & advised them no one has noticed Sheila's cuts. 

There will be an annoncement in the media soon from the Campaign Team that Sheila was covered in cuts & this shows she fought Nevill.

Her nightdress untouched as she read the bible, had a shower & changed after the massacre. Then dialled 999 at 6.09am.