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« Reply #210 on: October 14, 2017, 04:46:PM »

I guess such rules out the elusive "gun kept under the bed in case of foxes" theory?

Yeah , I think that was always nonsense.

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« Reply #211 on: October 14, 2017, 04:49:PM »
I'm not sure I agree with that. I mean, how could you possibly know?

I don't know whether he was upstairs or downstairs, or whether he ran or chased. Personally I believe he fled.

I'm cautious that people are trying to place NB downstairs alone simply to place him near the telephone.
Surely if Nevill did call JB it had to be before any shooting started.  Once anyone had been injured it would have been a very different situation.

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« Reply #212 on: October 14, 2017, 04:52:PM »
Surely if Nevill did call JB it had to be before any shooting started.  Once anyone had been injured it would have been a very different situation.

It would have been possible with an arm injury to make a call. It certainly wouldn't have been possible with injuries to his mouth/jaw.

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« Reply #213 on: October 14, 2017, 04:55:PM »
It would have been possible with an arm injury to make a call. It certainly wouldn't have been possible with injuries to his mouth/jaw.
No his injuries to his mouth and jaw were profound, poor man.  I have never considered he would have made that call unless it was before the stiuation deteriorated into a nightmare.

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« Reply #214 on: October 14, 2017, 04:58:PM »
Surely if Nevill did call JB it had to be before any shooting started.  Once anyone had been injured it would have been a very different situation.

Yes I agree.

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« Reply #215 on: October 14, 2017, 05:11:PM »
That is a good point.

Sheila in her crazy rage would just continue attacking Nevill upstairs once she ran out of bullets. Rather than go downstairs to reload.

Not if Nevill tried to get the gun off her or touched her. She'd run away.

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« Reply #216 on: October 14, 2017, 05:13:PM »
No his injuries to his mouth and jaw were profound, poor man.  I have never considered he would have made that call unless it was before the stiuation deteriorated into a nightmare.

It doesn't bear thinking about. An injury to an arm is one thing, but having your mouth and jaw shattered must have been absolutely terrifying and traumatic. I'm surprised he managed to do anything after that.

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« Reply #217 on: October 14, 2017, 05:19:PM »
It doesn't bear thinking about. An injury to an arm is one thing, but having your mouth and jaw shattered must have been absolutely terrifying and traumatic. I'm surprised he managed to do anything after that.
I know kaldin, he must have been so traumatised and disorientated, it's likely he was close to collapse which is why I would guess he was easy to over power once he got to the kitchen.

Whether Sheila or Jeremy was the killer I don't believe there would have been much of a fight. 
If Nevill was fit and strong he could have over powered either of them imo. He was so much taller than either of them with a long reach but in such an injured state and losing blood he must have been very weak and at a huge disadvantage.

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« Reply #218 on: October 14, 2017, 05:40:PM »
I know kaldin, he must have been so traumatised and disorientated, it's likely he was close to collapse which is why I would guess he was easy to over power once he got to the kitchen.

Whether Sheila or Jeremy was the killer I don't believe there would have been much of a fight. 
If Nevill was fit and strong he could have over powered either of them imo. He was so much taller than either of them with a long reach but in such an injured state and losing blood he must have been very weak and at a huge disadvantage.

Yes, I agree, which is why I don't think the argument that Sheila couldn't have overpowered him is valid. That doesn't mean she did it of course, but it does mean that it's possible.

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« Reply #219 on: October 14, 2017, 05:49:PM »
A lot would have depended how Nevill had first been put out of action as further injury would have been easier to inflict.
June had a bullet between the eyes as did one of the twins,but Nevill and the other twin hadn't.

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« Reply #220 on: October 14, 2017, 05:59:PM »
A lot would have depended how Nevill had first been put out of action as further injury would have been easier to inflict.
June had a bullet between the eyes as did one of the twins,but Nevill and the other twin hadn't.
Those bullets in the face and a compound fracture to his arm were horrendous injuries, he was a sitting duck after that.  It must have been such a dreadful end for the poor man.

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« Reply #221 on: October 14, 2017, 06:01:PM »
Those bullets in the face and a compound fracture to his arm were horrendous injuries, he was a sitting duck after that.  It must have been such a dreadful end for the poor man.

Yes. I try to remember that when I'm talking about this stuff. Even if he had survived, he would have been dreadfully disfigured and in pain.

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« Reply #222 on: October 14, 2017, 06:23:PM »
Those bullets in the face and a compound fracture to his arm were horrendous injuries, he was a sitting duck after that.  It must have been such a dreadful end for the poor man.







I know Maggie,a good man who'd helped everyone. I felt the most sorry for him because he struggled to keep the peace in the household as well as having the farm and other businesses to see to.

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« Reply #223 on: October 14, 2017, 06:50:PM »
What do you think Jeremy Bamber archives when he volunteers casually in his blogs or letters that he loves to bake cakes

Makes him sound soft doesn't it

Domesticated almost


He's a teller of tales Roch

He was known for baking cakes in prison - which is why somebody who served time with him in the 90's later remarked that he used to bake cakes.

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Re: Bullets fired and reloading
« Reply #224 on: October 14, 2017, 06:52:PM »
Notorious Paddy Conroy hey Roch

Do you still exchange messages with him?

Rarely.  Once in a blue moon tbh. 
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