What clothes was Sheila wearing in the evening ...

[Jane]

I was interested in the jumper

Hmmm. I know that not all things written in books are true, but this one works for me. Shall we say, it has the ring of truth about it?

[sherlock]

It is a fact that some people only need to use cocaine once to become addicted while others never become addicted. It also depends to a certain extent how it's taken, crack cocaine, which is smoked/inhaled is particularly highly addictive and causes dangerous behaviour.

Sheila told her psychiatrist that she had smoked cocaine ...

Another indicator it was more likely problematic use rather than very light recreational ...

[Stephanie]

Hmmm. I know that not all things written in books are true, but this one works for me. Shall we say, it has the ring of truth about it?

I wondered if Jackie, Roch, David or anyone else may know?

[Stephanie]

Sheila told her psychiatrist that she had smoked cocaine ...

Another indicator it was more likely problematic use rather than very light recreational ...

WHEN did she say this? What was the date? How long before the murders?

What's the difference between problematic and recreational?

[Stephanie]

It has been stated in two different books ,that after the murders,JB and BC spent alot of time at Sheilas flat.People stated that he was using his sisters clothes,ie:tight jeans and jumpers.When JB got arrested at the flat,the white arran jumper he is seen wearing in the photos was Sheilas.

Anyone?

[Steve_uk]

WHEN did she say this? What was the date? How long before the murders?

What's the difference between problematic and recreational?

I think that's true. It would be the second stay at St. Andrews in March 1985.

[sherlock]

WHEN did she say this? What was the date? How long before the murders?

What's the difference between problematic and recreational?

It is in one of her psychiatrists 4 statements ...

Problematic I would class as regular and more damaging ie more negative consequences ...

Even once is however still a problem ...

[Adam]

I don't know why it's important what clothes Sheila was wearing before she was killed.

She obviously went to bed around 10pm, as stated by PB. Putting on her nightie.

Nevill & June went to bed shortly afterwards & were found in their nightwear. The twins had gone to bed beforehand.

[Jane]

It is in one of her psychiatrists 4 statements ...

Problematic I would class as regular and more damaging ie more negative consequences ...

Even once is however still a problem ...

Yes, he speaks of her drug taking but he says nothing which indicates that he thought she was addicted. I would see as being "problematic" anything being taken in vast amounts on a daily basis. I have no sense of this with Sheila. Indeed, autopsy revealed only "traces" of cannabis and nothing about her behaviours, whilst at WHF, is suggestive of withdrawal symptoms.

[guest2181]

I don't know why it's important what clothes Sheila was wearing before she was killed.

She obviously went to bed around 10pm, as stated by PB. Putting on her nightie.

Nevill & June went to bed shortly afterwards & were found in their nightwear. The twins had gone to bed beforehand.

Would it be significant if JB reported that Sheila was in her nightdress when he said he left the farm shortly after 10pm?

[Adam]

Would it be significant if JB reported that Sheila was in her nightdress when he said he left the farm shortly after 10pm?

He didn't. But watch this space...

[lookout]

Would it be significant if JB reported that Sheila was in her nightdress when he said he left the farm shortly after 10pm?

Sheila had on her day clothes. I "enquired" 3/4 years ago.

[sherlock]

I don't know why it's important what clothes Sheila was wearing before she was killed.

She obviously went to bed around 10pm, as stated by PB. Putting on her nightie.

Nevill & June went to bed shortly afterwards & were found in their nightwear. The twins had gone to bed beforehand.

Did DB state that she was told that Sheila had gone to bed ?

Or did DB state that she was told Sheila was going to go to bed soon ?

How do you know Neville and June went shortly after ?

[sherlock]

Would it be significant if JB reported that Sheila was in her nightdress when he said he left the farm shortly after 10pm?

If Sheila was still wearing the leggings at say 10pm then I would then think it likely that she showered after 10pm - if Sheila was in her night dress already at 10PM I would think it more likely she had showered between 5.30pm and 10pm ...

I think it likely that she showered just before putting the night dress on - whatever time that was ....

[Adam]

Did DB state that she was told that Sheila had gone to bed ?

Or did DB state that she was told Sheila was going to go to bed soon ?

How do you know Neville and June went shortly after ?

It was Pamela Boutflour who said Sheila was going to bed. June told her this when she spoke on the phone to her.

Well it was 10pm. People do go bed around that time after a hard day at work. Nevill & June were found in their nightwear. June shot in bed, Nevill by the bed.

Figure it out.