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Offline Kaldin

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The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« on: October 07, 2017, 08:55:AM »
Why are the statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado exactly the same? Is it usual for officers who enter a crime scene together to use the same statement?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2017, 09:10:AM »
Why are the statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado exactly the same? Is it usual for officers who enter a crime scene together to use the same statement?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2017, 09:14:AM »
It's just your interpretation

Are you saying they're not the same? Read them.

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2017, 09:24:AM »
Why are the statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado exactly the same? Is it usual for officers who enter a crime scene together to use the same statement?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4954.0.html

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1629.0.html

Laziness?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2017, 09:28:AM »
Are you saying they're not the same? Read them.

If they are -and here I'm allowing that, on our behalf, you've looked at every full stop and comma- is there anything more we should be reading into it than one asking the other if he could "cop a butcher's at ya notes, mate"?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2017, 09:29:AM »
Laziness?

The content is the same, but the layout is not, and there were very small differences in wording, so they were typed separately. Who made the statement first?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2017, 09:33:AM »
If they are -and here I'm allowing that, on our behalf, you've looked at every full stop and comma- is there anything more we should be reading into it than one asking the other if he could "cop a butcher's at ya notes, mate"?

You don't find it odd? I thought people were supposed to make statements in their own words, not copy them from someone else (with very small changes).

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2017, 09:35:AM »
The content is the same, but the layout is not, and there were very small differences in wording, so they were typed separately. Who made the statement first?

You're making something out of nothing again

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2017, 09:35:AM »
The content is the same, but the layout is not, and there were very small differences in wording, so they were typed separately. Who made the statement first?

I don't know, but could guess that they didn't type out the statements themselves, an admin of some sort did.

They would be typed out twice, in order to put the correct names on (no computers) which might account for the different layouts and small discrepancies?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2017, 09:39:AM »
I don't know, but could guess that they didn't type out the statements themselves, an admin of some sort did.

They would be typed out twice, in order to put the correct names on (no computers) which might account for the different layouts and small discrepancies?

So one of them gave a statement, and his statement was just copied? I don't think that should have happened. I wonder if any of the other statements from the raid team were copied.

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2017, 09:40:AM »
You don't find it odd? I thought people were supposed to make statements in their own words, not copy them from someone else (with very small changes).

Well, in a perfect world, perhaps. However, given what appears to be going on here at the moment, if one of them had said anything different, it would probably have been jumped on as being potentially significant in the same way the similarities are.

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2017, 09:44:AM »
So one of them gave a statement, and his statement was just copied? I don't think that should have happened. I wonder if any of the other statements from the raid team were copied.

Or, neither wrote the statements.

An interviewing officer did, whilst interviewing them both together?

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2017, 09:47:AM »
Or, neither wrote the statements.

An interviewing officer did, whilst interviewing them both together?

That's possible. I just find it quite bad that they didn't use their own words and just used one statement.

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2017, 09:51:AM »
Statements were suspiciously similar.

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Re: The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2017, 09:52:AM »
That's possible. I just find it quite bad that they didn't use their own words and just used one statement.

I don't know enough about the procedures used, so can't really give an informed opinion either way.