The statements of PC Collins and PC Delgado

[Jane]

Statements were suspiciously similar.

Which means what?

[lookout]

Which means what?

Very nearly copied as probably whoever typed them had assumed that because all officers were at the scene that everything was the same.

[Jane]

Very nearly copied as probably whoever typed them had assumed that because all officers were at the scene that everything was the same.

But we're only talking about similarities between two peoples' notes, NOT the whole of the force. However, it would be odd if there weren't some similarities.

[Kaldin]

I'm not suggesting that anything was invented, I'm just questioning the procedure. If witnesses are not using their own words, anything could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

[Adam]

I'm not suggesting that anything was invented, I'm just questioning the procedure. If witnesses are not using their own words, anything could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

You are doing what Bamber has done for 32 years. Looking for a 't' without a cross.

[guest2181]

I'm not suggesting that anything was invented, I'm just questioning the procedure. If witnesses are not using their own words, anything could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

If they sign them, then are they not therefore taking responsibility and endorsing the contents?

Julie didn't write out her own statements.

[Jane]

I'm not suggesting that anything was invented, I'm just questioning the procedure. If witnesses are not using their own words, anything could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

And if they use their own words and/or their phraseology differs from their colleagues', that, too, could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

[Kaldin]

If they sign them, then are they not therefore taking responsibility and endorsing the contents?

Julie didn't write out her own statements.

Surely statements are at least dictated by the witness.

[Kaldin]

And if they use their own words and/or their phraseology differs from their colleagues', that, too, could be misunderstood or misinterpreted.

Well then they can be questioned about what they meant.

[Jane]

Well then they can be questioned about what they meant.

Then if notes appear significantly similar, they too may be questioned.

[guest2181]

Surely statements are at least dictated by the witness.

What makes you so sure?

As I said, I don't know the procedures used, therefore I have no idea what was, or wasn't, usual.

[lookout]

These are the " notes " which have obviously been withheld. What had been originally presented was no doubt done from memory.
Why did that officer break down during questioning BTW ?

[Kaldin]

Then if notes appear significantly similar, they too may be questioned.

I'm very surprised that they weren't questioned about that.

[Kaldin]

These are the " notes " which have obviously been withheld. What had been originally presented was no doubt done from memory.
Why did that officer break down during questioning BTW ?

DC Hammersley? It was at the COLP interviews wasn't it? I'm not sure why, but I hope he recovered - he sounded quite distressed going by the account of it.

[lookout]

DC Hammersley? It was at the COLP interviews wasn't it? I'm not sure why, but I hope he recovered - he sounded quite distressed going by the account of it.

Was Hammersley ever at the scene inside WHF ?