Why wasn't crispy shot?

[David1819]

You may want to place four hours between their deaths, but you have no realistic cause to do so.

-Lack of rigour mortis
-Lack of post mortem hypostasis
-Partially digested food in her stomach

Supports just that.

[Adam]

Adam, you said before that you believe Julie's statement. In that statement she said that Jeremy told her Sheila had been told to shoot herself. Are you now saying that you don't believe that statement?

I can believe Bamber told her that.

To make it seem like the perfect murder/suicide frame had taken place. And that Sheila had to extent voluntarily died by shooting herself.

There is no way Bamber would have persuaded Sheila to shoot herself. Has that ever happened before ?

[Adam]

Aah okay, I only started reading from 322.

There are lots of pages in the COA showing that Sheila didn't load twice, fight & fire 25 bullets. Some of which I have copied in the last few pages.

But appreciate supporters will just focus on the silencer & Julie identifying the bodies.

[Jane]

Adam, you said before that you believe Julie's statement. In that statement she said that Jeremy told her Sheila had been told to shoot herself. Are you now saying that you don't believe that statement?

So many supporters say they don't believe Julie's statement. I guess it varies from supporter to supporter but it has to be remembered that Julie is only repeating what Jeremy told her and at the point you mention, Jeremy was telling her what he alleged had been told him by MM. It becomes rather convoluted, doesn't it?

[Kaldin]

Hi Kaldin
I was reading (with difficulty) the hand written notes of the Pathologist and he clearly said Sheila's right hand was blood stained and the palm print was transferred to her nightdress although his typed version shown at the trial stated her hands were clean think lookout is getting the soot mark mixed up with the palm print as I remember posting to her about this.

Hi Susan.

Dr V said in his first statement that there was blood on the nightdress which appeared to be transferred from her wrist. I wish I could read his court transcript but I can't get a good enough look at it.

[Adam]

Adam, you said before that you believe Julie's statement. In that statement she said that Jeremy told her Sheila had been told to shoot herself. Are you now saying that you don't believe that statement?

This also shows the police didn't tamper with her WS. Otherwise they would have told her to say Bamber said MM shot Sheila himself.

[Kaldin]

So many supporters say they don't believe Julie's statement. I guess it varies from supporter to supporter but it has to be remembered that Julie is only repeating what Jeremy told her and at the point you mention, Jeremy was telling her what he alleged had been told him by MM. It becomes rather convoluted, doesn't it?

Adam has definitely said that he believes everything she said, but if Sheila was made to shoot herself, then she did fire some shots, right?

[Adam]

Hi Susan.

Dr V said in his first statement that there was blood on the nightdress which appeared to be transferred from her wrist. I wish I could read his court transcript but I can't get a good enough look at it.

There was blood on her nightdress. It was Sheila's blood.

[guest2181]

-Lack of rigour mortis
-Lack of post mortem hypostasis
-Partially digested food in her stomach

Supports just that.

Not really David. You're just trying to make things fit some scientific study that you've stumbled upon via Google searches.

Your erroneous claims and interpretation of one thing do not support your claim of another.

[guest2181]

Adam has definitely said that he believes everything she said, but if Sheila was made to shoot herself, then she did fire some shots, right?

Do you mean that she should therefore have some residue on her from the shot(s)?

[Adam]

Adam has definitely said that he believes everything she said, but if Sheila was made to shoot herself, then she did fire some shots, right?

I've just answered you're question in two posts - 346, 350.

Obviously the evidence is Sheila didn't chamber, breach, reload (twice), fight & fire 25 bullets. I have posted pages of COA evidence.

Not sure what else can be done.

[susan]

Hi Susan.

Dr V said in his first statement that there was blood on the nightdress which appeared to be transferred from her wrist. I wish I could read his court transcript but I can't get a good enough look at it.

Whoops Kaldin I thought he said transferred from her palm just shows I read something and by the time I get to the key board I have forgot half of what I have read he did say her hand was blood stained no doubt about that OMG I need locking up.  I will try again later today to read it again the writing is terrible.  The Court statement is on here can you not find it.

[Kaldin]

There was blood on her nightdress. It was Sheila's blood.

From her wrist, her palm, or her fingers?

[Kaldin]

I've just answered you're question in two posts - 346, 350.

Obviously the evidence is Sheila didn't chamber, breach, reload (twice), fight & fire 25 bullets. I have posted pages of COA evidence.

Not sure what else can be done.

But Adam, you insisted for a while that the twins had been shot first because that's what Julie claimed Jeremy told her. Julie also claimed that he told her Sheila had been made to shoot herself, so do you think that's the case? If she did fire the gun, would there not be residue on her hands?

[Kaldin]

Whoops Kaldin I thought he said transferred from her palm just shows I read something and by the time I get to the key board I have forgot half of what I have read he did say her hand was blood stained no doubt about that OMG I need locking up.  I will try again later today to read it again the writing is terrible.  The Court statement is on here can you not find it.

Yes, I can find the court testimony but I can't read it very well.