Why wasn't crispy shot?

[nugnug]

You never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Thanks to Stephanie the forum is littered with meaningless psychobabble.

i wouldent mind to much if it was coming from a qaulfied psychobabbler but it isnt.

[lookout]

 

[JackieD]

As I believe JB is innocent then this is all rubbish

If in your fairytale we could believe you why have left out the most deceitful person mugford

This post was meant for Steve

[Caroline]

i wouldent mind to much if it was coming from a qaulfied psychobabbler but it isnt.

How many qualified people involved in this case have had their credentials rubbished or have been called liars? Truth is, it wouldn't matter if Steph (or anyone else) were qualified or not, if they dared to suggest Jeremy was/is guilty, whatever they had to say would be denied, rubbished or ridiculed. Tis the way and it won't change.

[nugnug]

How many qualified people involved in this case have had their credentials rubbished or have been called liars? Truth is, it wouldn't matter if Steph (or anyone else) were qualified or not, if they dared to suggest Jeremy was/is guilty, whatever they had to say would be denied, rubbished or ridiculed. Tis the way and it won't change.

none this is your normal made up rubbish.

questioning an expert opionion is not rubbishing there credintails especially when another expert also qustions it.

[Caroline]

none this is your normal made up rubbish.

questioning an expert opionion is not rubbishing there credintails especially when another expert also qustions it.

Specifically, what opposing expert opinions are you referring to and what are the arguments that each side has presented?

I'll ignore your snide pathetic comment about making stuff up - I'll leave that to the likes of you.

[nugnug]

Specifically, what opposing expert opinions are you referring to and what are the arguments that each side has presented?

I'll ignore your snide pathetic comment about making stuff up - I'll leave that to the likes of you.

so your saying the scientists who gave evidence at bambers appeal are not experts.

[lebaleb]

Would Sheila have shot the dog? What do you think Jeremy Bambers plans were? Wouldn't shooting the dog have given the police more reason to suspect him?

He would have known the history building up with regards Sheila and he would have thought through how the police would have perceived the state of her mental health along with evidence at the crime scene. All he had to do was set the scene and feed the police his story.

This was a premeditated murder. He was waiting for the right time to carry out his plans. He would have already gathered enough circumstantial evidence in order to help give him plausible deniability and to finger Sheila.

In his defence, he states there was a conversation going on that night in the kitchen regarding fostering of the twins. This wasn't thought through too well because Colin and Sheila had joint custody of the twins, therefore as Colin states in his WS this would not have been possible.

What I don't think he'd thought of was that his father would put up such a fight and that he ended up needing to shoot Sheila twice.

Welcome to the forum by the way 

Whether it was possible or not is not relevant. The fact is that June was under the impression it could happen as she told Dorothy Bencher. It's in the last paragraph of her statement.
Neville wouldn't have been able to put up a fight.
Sheila had to shoot herself twice.

[Stephanie]

Whether it was possible or not is not relevant. The fact is that June was under the impression it could happen as she told Dorothy Bencher. It's in the last paragraph of her statement.
Neville wouldn't have been able to put up a fight.
Sheila had to shoot herself twice.

You are cherry picking

Sheila had gone to bed early after a long day

The evidence suggests Jeremy Bamber tortured his father whilst he was dying, and inso doing showed his cotempt towards NB

[lookout]

Where was Sheila when JB was in the kitchen " torturing his father ?" Joining in ??

[lookout]

There HAD to be one out of the 3 adults who were free to phone the police. Since Sheila had died a while after her father,what was she doing to protect her twins and her mother ? The first noise you hear that someone's entering the house,the bark of the dog---------------you phone the police,don't you ? Even if it happens to have been a false alarm,the police will always come out.

[lookout]

Anyone who has a dog which suddenly barks in the early hours of the morning,usually does so to alert the inhabitants. If you've got any sense,you don't ignore it. So why didn't someone act on it ? 

[lookout]

Nevill could well have been waiting,with the already loaded rifle---------------------as you would,as would any farmer.
What could JB have done faced with a 6'4 man pointing a rifle ? He would NOT have got the better of his father at this point while one of the women would have phoned for the police from the upstairs office. Tragedy avoided. So what happened ?

[Stephanie]

Nevill could well have been waiting,with the already loaded rifle---------------------as you would,as would any farmer.

Are you saying because NB was a farmer he would have walked around with a gun at all times or each time the dog barked he would have gone for his gun - because he was a farmer 

[lookout]

Son or not,Nevill would have used himself and a guarantee that JB would not have escaped unscathed---------------but a woman ?? How was Nevill going to deal with a woman,his daughter ??