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Offline KM

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Why wasn't crispy shot?
« on: October 06, 2017, 11:41:PM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2017, 11:52:PM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.
It possibly would have recognized his scent and not barked, it may not have had the run of the kitchen that morning or maybe he had others in mind for the first ten bullets.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2017, 12:15:AM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.

Why waste time killing the dog? Small target moving quickly would be a waste of ammo.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2017, 12:21:AM »
Welcome to the forum KM, can I just mention that before posting here, you're supposed to introduce yourself in the foyer - just a quick introduction would suffice.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2017, 07:50:AM »
Welcome to the forum KM, can I just mention that before posting here, you're supposed to introduce yourself in the foyer - just a quick introduction would suffice.

Done.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2017, 07:58:AM »
Well if he killed all the family he supposedly hated, why not the dog he hated as well. After he had killed the family he would have had time to kill the dog so it wouldn't have needed to be in the first 10 shots.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2017, 08:19:AM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.

Would Sheila have shot the dog? What do you think Jeremy Bambers plans were? Wouldn't shooting the dog have given the police more reason to suspect him?

He would have known the history building up with regards Sheila and he would have thought through how the police would have perceived the state of her mental health along with evidence at the crime scene. All he had to do was set the scene and feed the police his story.

This was a premeditated murder. He was waiting for the right time to carry out his plans. He would have already gathered enough circumstantial evidence in order to help give him plausible deniability and to finger Sheila.

In his defence, he states there was a conversation going on that night in the kitchen regarding fostering of the twins. This wasn't thought through too well because Colin and Sheila had joint custody of the twins, therefore as Colin states in his WS this would not have been possible.

What I don't think he'd thought of was that his father would put up such a fight and that he ended up needing to shoot Sheila twice.

Welcome to the forum by the way  ;D

« Last Edit: October 07, 2017, 09:07:AM by Stephanie »
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2017, 09:00:AM »
Bamber is an 'inheritance killer'. Lots of them are in prison. I don't know what is so complicated about that.

Crispy was not in the wills.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2017, 09:09:AM »
Bamber is an 'inheritance killer'. Lots of them are in prison. I don't know what is so complicated about that.

Crispy was not in the wills.

What happened to Crispy Adam? Didn't Bamber take him into a field to shoot him?
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2017, 09:33:AM »
What happened to Crispy Adam? Didn't Bamber take him into a field to shoot him?

Bamber told the police on the night he didn't want Crispy as it would mess up his stereo equipment.

He told the police to get rid of it or kill it.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2017, 09:36:AM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.

A) Crispy wasn't part of the inheritance chain

B) Sheila would have been unlikely to shoot him and it was supposed to look like Sheila's work.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2017, 09:40:AM »
Crispy might have been hiding, so it would be difficult to shoot him. Poor little thing - he must have been traumatised.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2017, 09:47:AM »

Between 3.10am - 3.48am Sheila was too busy - 

Finding the bible. 

Reading the bible. 

Writing a suicide note. 

Having a shower. 

Getting changed. 

Killing 4 humans with 24 shots. 

Fighting a man twice as big as her. 

Burning Nevill's back. 


To be concerned about chasing after Crispy. Well at least that is the impression Bamber tried to create.
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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2017, 09:47:AM »
I've gone from thinking JB guilty to now not being sure. If he did do it, why didn't he shoot the dog that he openly hated and wanted put down in the aftermath?

I'm trying to look at all angles, especially ones that are a bit obscure. My thoughts are that if JB did actually murder everyone, killing the dog would have been easy.




I've asked that often. It would have been the first thing an intended murderer would have done.

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Re: Why wasn't crispy shot?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2017, 10:01:AM »
i did wonder that myself.