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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #465 on: September 29, 2017, 08:19:PM »
JM failed to spot the fact she was being manipulated by an extremely dangerous, calculated and cunning individual. in other words a classic psycho!

She was quite clearly conflicted by her thoughts of "did he or didn't he" until such time that she spoke to the police.

Why would she be in doubt if he told her everything on 7th August? Of course, he said MM had done it, but other than that, according to her he made it clear he was responsible. Do you think she just thought he was showing off or joking, or what?

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #466 on: September 29, 2017, 08:22:PM »
Why would she be in doubt if he told her everything on 7th August? Of course, he said MM had done it, but other than that, according to her he made it clear he was responsible. Do you think she just thought he was showing off or joking, or what?
I think she realized the consequences if the Police discovered the truth, she was still in love with him for her own reasons and was anxious lest her own flaws were exposed to scrutiny.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #467 on: September 29, 2017, 08:24:PM »
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I think she realized the consequences if the Police discovered the truth, she was still in love with him for her own reasons and was anxious lest her own flaws were exposed to scrutiny.

I mean why would she be thinking "did he or didn't he"?

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #468 on: September 29, 2017, 08:26:PM »
I mean why would she be thinking "did he or didn't he"?
I think she knew deep down that he was the instigator, whether or not Matthew was somehow involved.

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« Reply #469 on: September 29, 2017, 08:26:PM »
I think she knew deep down that he was the instigator, whether or not Matthew was somehow involved.

But he told her he was the instigator didn't he? She didn't need to know "deep down".

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« Reply #470 on: September 29, 2017, 08:29:PM »
But he told her he was the instigator didn't he? She didn't need to know "deep down".
Well she had to work through the consequences, presented as she was with a fait accompli. This was a huge step up from the Osea Road break in and cannabis dealing at Goldsmiths College. I don't think she knew what was going on around her, trapped as she was in this miasma of evil.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #471 on: September 29, 2017, 08:31:PM »
I think she had become dependent on his love for the best part of two years. When Angi Greaves came onto the scene the love evaporated.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #472 on: September 29, 2017, 08:32:PM »
I think she had become dependent on his love for the best part of two years. When Angi Greaves came onto the scene the love evaporated.

I don't get where Anji Greaves came into this. Julie didn't mention her in any statements.

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« Reply #473 on: September 29, 2017, 08:38:PM »
I don't get where Anji Greaves came into this. Julie didn't mention her in any statements.
With Julie being busy away from the Farm with her own career to consider she was either ignorant of or turned a blind eye to Jeremy's dalliances. Once he decided to uproot from Goldhanger to Maida Vale Julie probably thought she would be cohabiting with him there and commuting to her new school from that address. Jeremy's behaviour had changed post-murders, difficult to say why unless he had become corrupted with the huge sums he was about to inherit and with a new bachelor pad in London decided to play the field again, though this time Julie was within earshot.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #474 on: September 29, 2017, 08:51:PM »
With Julie being busy away from the Farm with her own career to consider she was either ignorant of or turned a blind eye to Jeremy's dalliances. Once he decided to uproot from Goldhanger to Maida Vale Julie probably thought she would be cohabiting with him there and commuting to her new school from that address. Jeremy's behaviour had changed post-murders, difficult to say why unless he had become corrupted with the huge sums he was about to inherit and with a new bachelor pad in London decided to play the field again, though this time Julie was within earshot.

He can't have known Anji Greaves for very long before he was arrested though.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #475 on: September 29, 2017, 08:53:PM »
He can't have known Anji Greaves for very long before he was arrested though.

He had known her a while - I believe he had previously dates her sister.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #476 on: September 29, 2017, 08:53:PM »
He can't have known Anji Greaves for very long before he was arrested though.
No I believe he had dated her sister, Virginia.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #477 on: September 29, 2017, 09:41:PM »
Julie was with Jeremy virtually all the time after the murders though. I thought she got upset about a call from Virginia Greaves, not Anji Greaves.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #478 on: September 29, 2017, 10:04:PM »
Julie was with Jeremy virtually all the time after the murders though. I thought she got upset about a call from Virginia Greaves, not Anji Greaves.
Yes it was Virginia who telephoned about accommodation for herself and Jeremy admitted to Julie he had been seeing her again, though it seems he had been seeing her sister Anji as well. It was Anji who was loyal whilst he was in custody but post-conviction I think she realized any future relationship would be doomed to failure.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #479 on: September 29, 2017, 10:08:PM »
Yes it was Virginia who telephoned about accommodation for herself and Jeremy admitted to Julie he had been seeing her again, though it seems he had been seeing her sister Anji as well. It was Anji who was loyal whilst he was in custody but post-conviction I think she realized any future relationship would be doomed to failure.

I don't really see when Jeremy had time to be seeing anyone else, and there doesn't seem much time for Anji to become so loyal to him.