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Offline Kaldin

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #390 on: September 23, 2017, 07:49:PM »
Kaldin ignores the published forensic evidence.

To be fair, all supporters do.

I haven't ignored it at all - please indicate where I've done that.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #391 on: September 23, 2017, 07:51:PM »
No, the time that Bonnet received the call from PC West was 3.26. That's not when Jeremy phoned the police.

The police say they received a call from Bamber at 3.26am. Bamber says he phoned them at 3.36am.

26 or 16 minutes. Neither can be accounted for.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #392 on: September 23, 2017, 07:54:PM »
I haven't ignored it at all - please indicate where I've done that.

I posted it earlier in the week while you were posting.

There is no harm in saying you would have acted differently to Julie. Obviously claiming Bamber could be innocent is not plausible.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #393 on: September 23, 2017, 07:56:PM »
The police say they received a call from Bamber at 3.26am. Bamber says he phoned them at 3.36am.

26 or 16 minutes. Neither can be accounted for.

PC West said he received a call from Jeremy at 3.26 - that was after he wrote down 3.36 of course, so is he sure what time it was?

I doubt very much that PC West could have got all the info he needed out of Jeremy and phoned Malcolm in the space of one minute. Mr Bonnet wrote down that the call from PC West was at 3.26.

Jeremy said he received a call from Nevill at about 3.10, not 3.10 exactly.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #394 on: September 23, 2017, 07:57:PM »
I posted it earlier in the week while you were posting.

There is no harm in saying you would have acted differently to Julie. Obviously claiming Bamber could be innocent is not plausible.

You'll have to remind me of the forensic evidence which I allegedly ignored. I'm sure you can remember it.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #395 on: September 23, 2017, 07:59:PM »

Perfectly clean palm of hands on Sheila - Not disputed - COA

One blood mark on back of hand of Sheila - Not disputed - COA 

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands on Sheila.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected - Not disputed - COA

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA. 

No broken nails - Not disputed COA. 

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA. 

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA. 

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE, BAMBER.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA. 

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA. 

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA. 

Bamber doing nothing between 3.10am - 3.26/36am - Not disputed - BAMBER

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS. 

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA. 

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA. 

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS. 

Bamber/Sheila avoiding kitchen fight injuries - Not disputed - FORUM. 

Nevill's massive height/weight advantage over Sheila - Not disputed - ACCEPTED FACT. 

Impossibility of shower removing evidence off Sheila - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT. 

Impossibility of Sheila showering after killing herself - Not disputed - SCIENTIFIC FACT. 

Nevill being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS. 

Sheila being found bare footed in pyjamas suggesting she had just got out of bed - Not disputed - PHOTOS. 

Paint in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. . 

Aga scratch's - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Blood in silencer - Not disputed but suggestion from Bamber cousins did this - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

No blood in the rifle end - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Sheila's legs pulled after second shot - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's blood underneath the bible - Not disputed - COA. 

A lot of blood on Nevill's side of the bed - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Large scale multiple mental & physical effects of Haloperidol - Not disputed. - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Sheila having Haloperidol in her body - Not disputed - COA. 

Sheila's condition hours before the massacre - Not disputed. Bamber being a main witness - BAMBER & OTHER PEOPLE. 

Sheila under sedation - Not disputed - COA. 

Easy window entrance into WHF - Not disputed. Agreed by Bamber. - BAMBER. 

Shutting kitchen window from outside - Disputed but 20 independent sources prove otherwise - 20 SOURCES IN THE LIBRARY. 

No better massacre weapon options - Not disputed - FORUM. 

Professor Herbert Leon Mcdonell - Not disputed after Bamber hired him - WILKES'S BOOK. 

Items around the kitchen window being moved after housekeeper had left - Not disputed - WILKES'S BOOK. 

Easy bike routes to WHF - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Bike brought to Bamber's cottage just before the massacre - Not disputed - BAMBERS POLICE INTERVIEWS. 

June not waking/getting shot in bed - Not disputed - COA. 

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed. Suggestion burns were caused minus silencer rejected - BAMBER. 

2012 CCRC court judgement - judicial review request made & rejected - JUDICIAL REVIEW DOCUMENT. 

The twins not waking - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Bamber's call to the police - Not disputed - NUMEROUS SOURCES. 

Nevill's horrific injuries - Not disputed - COURT OF APPEAL. 

Sheila's time limits - Not disputed - POLICE STATEMENTS. 

No valid Sheila scenario - Not disputed - OS & FORUM. 

Bamber's 3am call to Julie - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Nevill's 2/4 second call to Bamber - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Bamber asking the police to pick him up - Not disputed - WILKES, CRIMES, HEARTS & CORONETS.

Nevill's back burns - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Ease for a man to lift & carry a woman - Not disputed. YOUTUBE VIDEO. 

Crime scenes of 5 individuals - Not disputed - COA. 

June & the twins not waking - Not disputed - COA. 

The found hacksaw - Not disputed - BAMBER. 

Bible on Sheila's arm- Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Execution period 12am - 3am - Not disputed - BAMBER
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #396 on: September 23, 2017, 08:02:PM »
Not that wretched list again. You'll have to be more concise and explain the evidence more clearly. I've addressed some of the points, but I don't have all day to go through each one.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #397 on: September 23, 2017, 08:08:PM »
Not that wretched list again. You'll have to be more concise and explain the evidence more clearly. I've addressed some of the points, but I don't have all day to go through each one.

You addressed one.

Well I've given the sources. You can investigate further if you want.

Julie not doing anything for 20 days doesn't negate this.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #398 on: September 23, 2017, 08:09:PM »
You addressed one.

Well I've given the sources. You can investigate further if you want.

Julie not doing anything for 20 days doesn't negate this.

Bring up each point in turn and I'll address it.

Julie not doing anything for one month shows that she covered up the crime.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #399 on: September 23, 2017, 08:13:PM »
Bring up each point in turn and I'll address it.

Julie not doing anything for one month shows that she covered up the crime.

100% couldnt be clearer
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #400 on: September 23, 2017, 08:16:PM »

Julie not doing anything for one month shows that she covered up the crime.

100% couldnt be clearer

Which by default shows you both know Jeremy Bamber to be guilty!
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #401 on: September 23, 2017, 08:21:PM »
Which by default shows you both know Jeremy Bamber to be guilty!

Obviously, I'm talking from the viewpoint that she's telling the truth. If she's not, then that will involve a lot more research to find out where she got the story from.

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #402 on: September 23, 2017, 08:21:PM »
Which by default shows you both know Jeremy Bamber to be guilty!
Yes the Defence never has got round that one sufficiently for my liking. They have to pussyfoot round the evidence, portray her as a wicked woman whilst somehow bestowing exalted status on a mass murderer and con man.
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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #403 on: September 23, 2017, 08:24:PM »
Yes the Defence never have got round that one sufficiently for my liking. They have to pussyfoot round the evidence, portray her as a wicked woman whilst somehow bestowing exalted status on a mass murderer and con man.

What Jeremy Bamber did to JM is all here https://www.facebook.com/notes/psychopaths-rule-the-world/gaslighting-crazy-making-and-the-reversive-blockade-techniques-of-the-psychopath/268145193228876/

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Re: Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:
« Reply #404 on: September 23, 2017, 08:24:PM »
Obviously, I'm talking from the viewpoint that she's telling the truth. If she's not, then that will involve a lot more research to find out where she got the story from.
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