Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:

[Kaldin]

To bolster his alibi - it wasn't for Julie's benefit, it was for the others she shared the flat with. The more people knew that 'something was wrong at the farm' the better.

If you're a fence sitter, what part has you questioning Bambers innocence? I haven't seen you question that side yet?

Phoning her didn't give him an alibi though, so I don't know what you mean.

I also don't understand your second question.

[Steve_uk]

Phoning her didn't give him an alibi though, so I don't know what you mean.

I also don't understand your second question.

It did of sorts because he was telephoning from Bourtree Cottage and not the scene of the crime.

[Kaldin]

It did of sorts because he was telephoning from Bourtree Cottage and not the scene of the crime.

He phoned the police from the cottage as well so he didn't need an extra alibi. None of it actually gave him an alibi anyway.

[Jane]

He phoned the police from the cottage as well so he didn't need an extra alibi. None of it actually gave him an alibi anyway.

But that's with the benefit of hindsight. I feel certain it would have registered that the more people who knew he'd called to say there was "something wrong at the farm" the more it proved he couldn't have done it.

[Kaldin]

But that's with the benefit of hindsight. I feel certain it would have registered that the more people who knew he'd called to say there was "something wrong at the farm" the more it proved he couldn't have done it.

Not if he phoned her at 3pm it wouldn't because that would have been before Nevill phoned him. I also find it bizarre that she merely told him to go to bed. After all, he had allegedly phoned her earlier to say that tonight was the night, or whatever it was he said.

[Stephanie]

It was you who implied that he wouldn't have phoned if he'd jilted her. I merely pointed out that he hadn't jilted her at that point.

You appear to be confusing yourself Kaldin.

I cannot make it any clearer. Jeremy Bamber used JM as a pawn. Why he chose to phone her on the night he murdered his family only he knows; though as Steve_UK suggests he could have done so to implicate her in some way and/or play mind f**k games.

During police interview Jeremy Bamber referred to JM being a "scorned women" as his reasoning for why she would tell the police what she did about him.

Who says he jilted her? I don't believe Bamber jilted her. I believe he played games with her and used her for his own ends.

[Stephanie]

Not if he phoned her at 3pm it wouldn't because that would have been before Nevill phoned him. I also find it bizarre that she merely told him to go to bed. After all, he had allegedly phoned her earlier to say that tonight was the night, or whatever it was he said.

But you are presuming JM knew what he meant re his comment "tonight is the night." You aren't being objective.

Her response of "go back to bed" suggests it was just another night to her and she was unaware of his plans. How can it be perceived any other way?!

And we only have Bambers word that his father had phoned him! What if, as I believe, there was no phone call from NB?

[Kaldin]

You appear to be confusing yourself Kaldin.

I cannot make it any clearer. Jeremy Bamber used JM as a pawn. Why he chose to phone her on the night he murdered his family only he knows; though as Steve_UK suggests he could have done so to implicate her in some way and/or play mind f**k games.

During police interview Jeremy Bamber referred to JM being a "scorned women" as his reasoning for why she would tell the police what she did about him.

Who says he jilted her? I don't believe Bamber jilted her. I believe he played games with her and used her for his own ends.

Huh? If I'm confused, it's because of your posts.

How could Julie Mugford foresee the murders?

And why do you refer to her as the "jilted girlfriend?"

Why did Jeremy Bamber telephone his alledged "jilted girlfriend" on the night he murdered his family?

Are you claiming that Jeremy did not jilt Julie or what?

The point is that he didn't jilt her until just before she went to the police. Steve appears to not know that either.

[Jane]

Not if he phoned her at 3pm it wouldn't because that would have been before Nevill phoned him. I also find it bizarre that she merely told him to go to bed. After all, he had allegedly phoned her earlier to say that tonight was the night, or whatever it was he said.

Well, if he phoned her prior to when Nevill -allegedly- phoned him, and told her "something is wrong at the farm" are you suggesting he was telepathic, OR can you see he could have killed them?

[nugnug]

But you are presuming JM knew what he meant re his comment "tonight is the night." You aren't being objective.

Her response of "go back to bed" suggests it was just another night to her and she was unaware of his plans. How can it be perceived any other way?!

as he had been telling her for weeks she had have been bloody thick not of guessed.

and as she dident ask him what by the sentence tonights the night surely she must of known exactly what he ment.

this is of course presuming the storys true.

[Kaldin]

But you are presuming JM knew what he meant re his comment "tonight is the night." You aren't being objective.

Her response of "go back to bed" suggests it was just another night to her and she was unaware of his plans. How can it be perceived any other way?!

And we only have Bambers word that his father had phoned him! What if, as I believe, there was no phone call from NB?

Oh, and she didn't think to ask what he meant by it, despite the fact that he'd been going on about killing his family for months?

If someone rang me in the early hours and said there was something wrong at home, I'd want to know what they meant, wouldn't you?

[Kaldin]

Anyway, he said a lot more to Julie during the earlier call - according to Julie, so of course she knew what he meant.

I was at my home in Lewisham when Jeremy phoned me about 10pm.
He said to me ‘ Hi honey’ I’ve just phoned up to ask how you are. I said to him I have had a wonderful day at work and that I was really happy and I wanted to make him happy. I asked him how his day had been and he said ‘ As best as can be expected’ as he had spent all day on the tractor; …???… it had been sunny and he had spent all day inside. I assume that he meant he was inside the cab of the tractor all day.
I said to him ‘you sound pissed off’. He said I have been thinking on the tractor and the crime will have to be tonight or never. I told him not to be so stupid and that he was only saying this because he had had a bad day on the tractor. He also told me that he had only just got back from work and had had supper with his parents and Sheila and the twins and that was why he late in phoning me.

I then continued telling him about my day and dropped the matter concerning his family. I was aware that when he said the word crime he was referring to the killing of his family.

[Adam]

Oh, and she didn't think to ask what he meant by it, despite the fact that he'd been going on about killing his family for months?

If someone rang me in the early hours and said there was something wrong at home, I'd want to know what they meant, wouldn't you?

Not at 3am.

[Kaldin]

Not at 3am.

You wouldn't want to know what they meant, particularly as they'd been talking about the killing of their family a few hours earlier? That's just weird.

[Stephanie]

Oh, and she didn't think to ask what he meant by it, despite the fact that he'd been going on about killing his family for months?

If someone rang me in the early hours and said there was something wrong at home, I'd want to know what they meant, wouldn't you?

Julie Mugford wasn't a mind reader. It was silly o'clock in the morning and Bamber had just woken her and the rest of the household up.

If Jeremy Bamber really did receive a telephone call from his father stating what he alleged why would he be phoning JM?

You are doing it again; you are putting the emphasis on JM.

Neville allegedly called Jeremy. The responsibility of that call therefore lay with Jeremy. Only he was privy to the alleged call, it's content and any inflection

Anyway, I thought you suggested in previous posts that Jeremy was cooling things off with Julie?