Brett Collins's published interview with The Sun:

[Steve_uk]

This thread may as well run and run..

[nugnug]

I just don't get it nugnug. Here we have a woman who says that Jeremy talked about killing parents, and she said she got fed up with it, and yet she carried on with him. I can understand that she didn't take it seriously, but then he rang her up and said "tonight's the night", or whatever, and she just ignored it? Then after the murders he allegedly told her that he hired someone to kill them all, and she just carried on like nothing happened? It's just not believable really.

even why i was a guilter i took her story with a fair pinch of salt.

[Caroline]

I just don't get it nugnug. Here we have a woman who says that Jeremy talked about killing parents, and she said she got fed up with it, and yet she carried on with him. I can understand that she didn't take it seriously, but then he rang her up and said "tonight's the night", or whatever, and she just ignored it? Then after the murders he allegedly told her that he hired someone to kill them all, and she just carried on like nothing happened? It's just not believable really.

Carried on like nothing happened? How can you possibly know that?

[Kaldin]

Carried on like nothing happened? How can you possibly know that?

OK, like nothing bad had happened. She went to Colin's for the weekend with Jeremy and went out for a meal with several people, she went to Eastbourne with Jeremy, she helped him load up the van with stuff from the house, she went out for meals with Jeremy and others, she had him back to stay at her house, she went to the farm with him to comfort him when he went there for the first time after the murders, she went to the funeral wearing a rather ostentatious veil and held Jeremy's arm like he was a victim, she went shopping in Colchester with her mate, she stayed at Jeremy's house ...

Need I go on?

[nugnug]

Carried on like nothing happened? How can you possibly know that?

erm her actions.

[Caroline]

erm her actions.

Such as? When you list them tell us how you know what was going on in her head?

I won't waste by time waiting for a proper response from you. You'll do as you generally do, wait for someone else to do the work then agree with them.

[Kaldin]

Oh, and she went to Amsterdam with Jeremy, and also the Nottinghill Carnival. She also planned for the relationship with Jeremy to continue.

None of that sounds like a woman who was afflicted with guilt and/or fear.

[nugnug]

Such as? When you list them tell us how you know what was going on in her head?

I won't waste by time waiting for a proper response from you. You'll do as you generally do, wait for someone else to do the work then agree with them.

erm they already been listed many times.

[Caroline]

OK, like nothing bad had happened. She went to Colin's for the weekend with Jeremy and went out for a meal with several people, she went to Eastbourne with Jeremy, she helped him load up the van with stuff from the house, she went out for meals with Jeremy and others, she had him back to stay at her house, she went to the farm with him to comfort him when he went there for the first time after the murders, she went to the funeral wearing a rather ostentatious veil and held Jeremy's arm like he was a victim, she went shopping in Colchester with her mate, she stayed at Jeremy's house ...

Need I go on?

How do you know what was going on in her head? .

[Caroline]

erm they already been listed many times.

As  expected! 

[Kaldin]

How do you know what was going on in her head? .

What would be going on in your head if you continued to see someone who you knew had murdered five people, including two children? I bet you wouldn't be thinking about your next trip abroad, or going out for meals all the time, or asking the murderer not to leave you.

[Caroline]

Oh, and she went to Amsterdam with Jeremy, and also the Nottinghill Carnival. She also planned for the relationship with Jeremy to continue.

None of that sounds like a woman who was afflicted with guilt and/or fear.

Like I said, you can't possibly know what was going on in her head. In oder to know if her behaviour was different (seeking company so as not to be alone with her thoughts), you would have to know what she usually did, then compare the two.

[Caroline]

What would be going on in your head if you continued to see someone who you knew had murdered five people, including two children? I bet you wouldn't be thinking about your next trip abroad, or going out for meals all the time, or asking the murderer not to leave you.

I would never find myself in that situation but no I wouldn't be thinking about my next trip - however, you don't know that SHE was thinking about such things either!

[Kaldin]

I would never find myself in that situation but no I wouldn't be thinking about my next trip - however, you don't know that SHE was thinking about such things either!

What do you think she was thinking? If your boyfriend told you he'd had his entire family murdered, would you not be a little bit worried about your own life? Would you continue to be alone with him? Of course you wouldn't.

I've tried to put myself in her place, I really have. I've tried to go back to when I was that age, and thought about what I would have done. I would have made excuses not to see him, I would have told someone, I would have not gone to the funerals, I would have been in a horrible state. She did none of those things, and she continued to go to places and do things which reminded her the whole time of what he did.

[Kaldin]

Like I said, you can't possibly know what was going on in her head. In oder to know if her behaviour was different (seeking company so as not to be alone with her thoughts), you would have to know what she usually did, then compare the two.

She sought his company though. She said she was upset about it, and yet she continually went around with him, and stayed at his house!