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Offline Jane

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« Reply #825 on: October 06, 2017, 09:01:PM »
I did, you only have to go back to page one of this thread!

Would that be to the place where you were asked the same question yesterday? ;D

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« Reply #826 on: October 06, 2017, 09:13:PM »
This thread is going a little over my head if someone would kindly summarize?

Oh dear! Where do I begin. The stain on A bible -there now seem to be several- has been questioned, as has the origins of the blood. There was a crease in the corner of ONE bible's cover which we were reliably informed was visible when the bible was laid cover down, then we were told that the police have photo'd two different bibles but no one seemed to know why they would do this. Every time a conclusion appeared to be arrived at Kaldin appeared to change tack to disagree with the findings. Seeing is believing, I guess.

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« Reply #827 on: October 06, 2017, 09:14:PM »
Oh dear! Where do I begin. The stain on A bible -there now seem to be several- has been questioned, as has the origins of the blood. There was a crease in the corner of ONE bible's cover which we were reliably informed was visible when the bible was laid cover down, then we were told that the police have photo'd two different bibles but no one seemed to know why they would do this. Every time a conclusion appeared to be arrived at Kaldin appeared to change tack to disagree with the findings. Seeing is believing, I guess.
Thank you Jane.

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« Reply #828 on: October 06, 2017, 09:15:PM »
OK, will try and replicate - but not tonight :)

As promised ......... I enlisted the help of my old Ted - no Ted's were injured in the making of these pictures but, they do prove a point!
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« Reply #829 on: October 06, 2017, 09:15:PM »
Oh dear! Where do I begin. The stain on A bible -there now seem to be several- has been questioned, as has the origins of the blood. There was a crease in the corner of ONE bible's cover which we were reliably informed was visible when the bible was laid cover down, then we were told that the police have photo'd two different bibles but no one seemed to know why they would do this. Every time a conclusion appeared to be arrived at Kaldin appeared to change tack to disagree with the findings. Seeing is believing, I guess.

Where did I do that? Your conclusion isn't necessarily my conclusion. You don't always know best you know. I've conceded the point about the corner of the Bible, which is nothing to do with you because you didn't prove anything - Caroline did.

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« Reply #830 on: October 06, 2017, 09:17:PM »
As promised ......... I enlisted the help of my old Ted - no Ted's were injured in the making of these pictures but, they do prove a point!

Not bad, but could you do a shot more from the side of Ted?

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« Reply #831 on: October 06, 2017, 09:19:PM »
Where did I do that? Your conclusion isn't necessarily my conclusion. You don't always know best you know. I've conceded the point about the corner of the Bible, which is nothing to do with you because you didn't prove anything - Caroline did.

OK, Caroline showed a picture. I used words to do the same thing. I see we're playing a game of semantics here.

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« Reply #832 on: October 06, 2017, 09:20:PM »
Not bad, but could you do a shot more from the side of Ted?

Which side? I'll have to take them all again or the stick won't be in the same position - I'll have to ask Ted if he minds first - he can be a bit cantankerous at this hour! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #833 on: October 06, 2017, 09:22:PM »
Which side? I'll have to take them all again or the stick won't be in the same position - I'll have to ask Ted if he minds first - he can be a bit cantankerous at this hour! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Like this. Sorry about the graphic photo. Hope Ted's bearing up.  :))

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4315;image

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« Reply #834 on: October 06, 2017, 09:37:PM »
Like this. Sorry about the graphic photo. Hope Ted's bearing up.  :))

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=4315;image

He's swearing like a trooper (don't know where he gets it from  :-[ ;D) but he agreed in the end.

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« Reply #835 on: October 06, 2017, 09:39:PM »
He's swearing like a trooper (don't know where he gets it from  :-[ ;D) but he agreed in the end.

What a STAR! He's even smiling for the camera ;D ;D

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« Reply #836 on: October 06, 2017, 09:39:PM »
So how did the blood end up where it did, on her back and no further down ?

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« Reply #837 on: October 06, 2017, 09:40:PM »
Where did I do that? Your conclusion isn't necessarily my conclusion. You don't always know best you know. I've conceded the point about the corner of the Bible, which is nothing to do with you because you didn't prove anything - Caroline did.
Kaldin I'm not sure where you're going with this. Is it your thesis that the scene was staged, that Sheila brought the bible in from her bedroom, that she was reading it moments before her death, that Jeremy tossed it on her..

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« Reply #838 on: October 06, 2017, 09:44:PM »
Again, that's really good Caroline, and it does show how a camera angle can make all the difference, so thank you for taking the time to do that.

I'm just not completely sure because it really looks like the end of the rifle is resting on Sheila's neck.

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« Reply #839 on: October 06, 2017, 09:45:PM »
Kaldin I'm not sure where you're going with this. Is it your thesis that the scene was staged, that Sheila brought the bible in from her bedroom, that she was reading it moments before her death, that Jeremy tossed it on her..

No, I was just querying some points that didn't make sense to me Steve. I didn't really have a thesis.