The Bible

[Kaldin]

And if there was?

If there was blood on the other pages? That would depend on what form the stains were in - if they were smudged, how they got there, if they were fingerprints, etc.

[maggie]

I wonder who heard June say those words. I've never denied Sheila's illness it's possible June may have- NOR do I suspect there wasn't at least, a little jealousy/anger on June's part, that would undoubtedly have caused her some guilt, over Sheila's ability to conceive.

I honestly doubt that June would have been jealous of Sheila's ability to conceive.  I would guess she had assuaged her mothering instincts almost 30 years before when adopting Sheila and then Jeremy as tiny babies. They were no doubt adorable and loving children which would have fulfilled her maternal longings. 
Obviously, this is just an educated guess and I have no concrete knowledge of how June reacted to Sheila's pregnancies.

[Jane]

I honestly doubt that June would have been jealous of Sheila's ability to conceive.  I would guess she had assuaged her mothering instincts almost 30 years before when adopting Sheila and then Jeremy as tiny babies. They were no doubt adorable and loving children which would have fulfilled her maternal longings. 
Obviously, this is just an educated guess and I have no concrete knowledge of how June reacted to Sheila's pregnancies.

Babies are beautiful. I've no doubt that being able to adopt them gave June great joy, but that's not the same as saying that it was a joy for her to have beautiful babies to shower with love, is it? I can't believe that Sheila's several pregnancies didn't evoke old feelings of inadequacy in June. Although, like you, I have no concrete knowledge, unless June had huge reserves of empathy, she probably had little understanding of Sheila's more open display of love for HER babies, but strangely, I feel she may have had stronger feelings for them than those she had for Sheila.

[Kaldin]

Is it possible that after June was shot and she got out of bed, Sheila could have come back into the room and grabbed the Bible for some reason. June could have tried to stop Sheila and that's how it got blood on it? Perhaps the Bible fell to the floor and that's why it looked like it had been thrown down.

[lookout]

I've been trying to trace the locations of June's gunshot injuries,but can't seem to track them down. I've forgotten the areas on her body where she was shot. Does anyone know,offhand ?

[Caroline]

I've been trying to trace the locations of June's gunshot injuries,but can't seem to track them down. I've forgotten the areas on her body where she was shot. Does anyone know,offhand ?

[lookout]

Thanks Caroline. I've been going blind looking for that.

[sherlock]

Yes, but I also think that it's very theatrical for Jeremy to place a Bible either on her or next to her. It makes no sense either way. Added to that, the blood stains don't make sense. I feel this issue is of importance, but there's something about it which hasn't clicked yet.

Kaldin - there is a very significant fact about the Bible that I can see very clearly ...
Some other people cannot see it as clearly or at all ....
But I am 100% right without any doubt at all about what I have realised about that Bible ...

Please read the following thread carefully if you wish to understand the point :

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7349.0.html

I hope that sheds some light on the matter for you )

[Kaldin]

Kaldin - there is a very significant fact about the Bible that I can see very clearly ...
Some other people cannot see it as clearly or at all ....
But I am 100% right without any doubt at all about what I have realised about that Bible ...

Please read the following thread carefully if you wish to understand the point :

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7349.0.html

I hope that sheds some light on the matter for you )

Hi Sherlock. Thank you.

Are you referring to the content of the page at which the Bible was open? I'm not convinced that was chosen by either Jeremy or Sheila.

[Kaldin]

One of the problems of the Bible being placed right next to Sheila is that there is no way to tell if there was blood on the note which was in the Bible, which is sticking out. If the Bible was placed on her arm, there should be some stains of blood from those trickles on her arm.

[Caroline]

Kaldin - there is a very significant fact about the Bible that I can see very clearly ...
Some other people cannot see it as clearly or at all ....
But I am 100% right without any doubt at all about what I have realised about that Bible ...

Please read the following thread carefully if you wish to understand the point :

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7349.0.html

I hope that sheds some light on the matter for you )

No you aren't.

[sherlock]

No you aren't.

Caroline - you have absolutely no idea at all about the Bible or those particular passages ...

So why are you making out you do understand them ?

What is your real agenda on this forum ?

Why not share with the forum members your interpretation of what those Psalms are about ?

Oh sorry I forgot - you can't - you do not understand them at all whatsoever ....

Perhaps you should stick to talking about things you know about in future ?

Kaldin is puzzled by the Bible in this case ...

Let Kaldin look into it with an open mind with guidance from someone who understands those Psalms 

[Steve_uk]

Caroline - you have absolutely no idea at all about the Bible or those particular passages ...

So why are you making out you do understand them ?

What is your real agenda on this forum ?

Why not share with the forum members your interpretation of what those Psalms are about ?

Oh sorry I forgot - you can't - you do not understand them at all whatsoever ....

Perhaps you should stick to talking about things you know about in future ?

Kaldin is puzzled by the Bible in this case ...

Let Kaldin look into it with an open mind with guidance from someone who understands those Psalms 

Even if she was meditating on the things contained in the Psalms it's a huge stretch to claim she is therefore the perpetrator of the tragedies.

[Roch]

Even if she was meditating on the things contained in the Psalms it's a huge stretch to claim she is therefore the perpetrator of the tragedies.

She's covered in wounds - which explode the myths that have been peddled for 30 years regarding her supposedly being in near perfect condition and only having two gunshot wounds.

She was the perpetrator.   Peter Vanezis, in collusion with the prosecution, concealed the existence of the wounds.  The same was done with June Bamber who has wounds to her right shin and lower left leg, her chin and probably her throat also.  All three adults have fight / defence wounds.  Jeremy has none and couldn't afford to sustain any (i.e. in any scenario where he is an inheritance killer).

[Steve_uk]

She's covered in wounds - which explode the myths that have been peddled for 30 years regarding her supposedly being in near perfect condition and only having two gunshot wounds.

She was the perpetrator.   Peter Vanezis, in collusion with the prosecution, concealed the existence of the wounds.  The same was done with June Bamber who has wounds to her right shin and lower left leg, her chin and probably her throat also.  All three adults have fight / defence wounds.  Jeremy has none and couldn't afford to sustain any (i.e. in any scenario where he is an inheritance killer).

But the problem is the nightie, her clean feet, her hands which are remarkably unscathed given she's had all this life and death struggle..