Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?

[mike tesko]

There are some amongst us, who seek to reject or object to anything legitimate that we might have to say...

it has been relatively easy to identify these individuals...

[mike tesko]

These individuals, ought to hold their heads in total shame!

They know who they are, and I know who they are...

[Caroline]

So, you don't believe in 'god' and you are not religeous?

Can't say a god doesn't exist because all of the big questions haven't been answered by science - YET. However, do I believe the bible to be true and accurate? No and no, I'm not what you could call 'religious'.

[Reader]

Genesis 1 is not written in the first person; it's a human account. Also, it's inconsistent. For example, it asserts that initially heaven and earth were created (on the first day). It then asserts that the firmament was created (on the second day) and called heaven, which contradicts the creation of heaven on the first day. That's not very surprising, as humans weren't around to observe those events.

Also, it doesn't state that the earth is flat. The earth has been measured and photographed - it's big, round (roughly ball-shaped), and internally very hot. Repeatedly posting that it's flat doesn't increase the likelihood that it's flat. We've mapped its surface and confirmed that it's round numerous times. For example, measurements confirm that "down" is a different direction at different locations, and the angular difference between those directions is proportional to the distance between the locations (measured along the earth's surface). There are no photographs that show that the earth's surface is flat, with a raised perimeter.

[Reader]

Yes they have!

No, they haven't. The models you referred to don't work, as they don't account for what we observe, such as the moon's phases, eclipses of the moon and sun, measurements of the earth, the cratered appearance of the moon, etc.

[mike tesko]

No, they haven't. The models you referred to don't work, as they don't account for what we observe, such as the moon's phases, eclipses of the moon and sun, measurements of the earth, the cratered appearance of the moon, etc.

There is no workable globe earth model, it's all hypothetical!

You just saying it's a globe doesn't mean that it is - the facts support a flat earth! I don't believe that the measurements of the earth are accurate because they are based on a hypothetical globe earth, which it is not! It's definitely flat, the earth can't be spinning at the equator at over 1000 mph, since at the south and the north poles the earth would not be spinning at all! It is just not possible to prove that theory, it's total bunkem! The moons phases can be explained in the flat earth reality, so can the eclipses - there's no such thing as gravity in the form you are advocating!

If gravity existed as per your idea of a globe earth module, there would be zero gravity at the north and the south poles! Oh, sorry, I forgot to mention also the magnetic north and south poles... earth rotating at just over 1000 mph, versus the alleged earths tilt on its own axis there would almost certainly be a noticeable effect, yet none exists in the globe module...

It's all hogwash

There are people on the earth who can think for themselves - if they can't at the moment because they are trapped into the indoctrinnation of the powers that be, eventually reason and logic will suffice! People standing the right wway up, standing upside down, standing sideways on this way, and side ways on that way is total bunkem imagination - oh, and to top it all, depending upon who is observing who, the same person could be the right way up, upside down, sideways on this way, and sideways on that way all at one and the same time!

Yeah, alright, I can see where this is leading to...

[mike tesko]

I am not an expert, and do not profess to be, but what I am good at is research and finding out what the truth is - and I can say with my hand on my heart that the earth is fundamentally flat in orientation, everybody on earth, every living insect, creature, Bird, fish, aeroplane and its passengers, motor car and its occupants, and boats all operate and function the right way up! There is only one true up and one true down, there is only one true left, and one true right - it doesn't matter upon which part of the earth a person, or an insect, or a bird, or a fish, or a motor car, or an aeroplane and its passengers, or a boat function, there is only one orientation that all or any of these function and operate, and that is that they are all upright in the flat earth module all of the time!

[mike tesko]

I am not an expert, and do not profess to be, but what I am good at is research and finding out what the truth is - and I can say with my hand on my heart that the earth is fundamentally flat in orientation, everybody on earth, every living insect, creature, Bird, fish, aeroplane and its passengers, motor car and its occupants, and boats all operate and function the right way up! There is only one true up and one true down, there is only one true left, and one true right - it doesn't matter upon which part of the earth a person, or an insect, or a bird, or a fish, or a motor car, or an aeroplane and its passengers, or a boat function, there is only one orientation that all or any of these function and operate, and that is that they are all upright in the flat earth module all of the time!

The earth is a globe module is nonsense!

Right way up people, sideways on people, and upside down people all on the same planet at one and the same time is nonsensical!

[mike tesko]

Here is what happens when human beings are subject to spin (in a controlled environment) - people are flung by centrifugal force against the outer edge of the space they occupy! It seems to me, that if the globe earth module were true, that everyone, in any part of the earth would be flung to the outer reaches of the earth's atmosphere if the earth were spinning at around 1000 mph, or so! There is no way that a person, or people at different locations upon the earth, would all somehow defy the laws of nature and be all earthbound, because the laws of centrifugal force would need to be turned upon its head!

Here is what happens when human beings become subject of spin :-

Whilst under the influence of spin, none of the people would be able to move about of their own free will, and interact with other people who are effected by the same force of the spin - everybody would be Flung to the edge of the environment they were existing in!  There would be no living thing, no human, no animal, no insect, no bird, no fish, no man-made thing, including aeroplanes, motor cars, and or boats anywhere upon the surface of the earth! It would be an impossibility!!

Everybody and everything would be floating around on the edge of space, or as the case may be, up inside the eouter edges of the firmament!

[mike tesko]

The Americans did not go to the moon and land upon it! They couldn't have it's an impossibility, it's just a damn right lie perpetrated by the powers that be to extract finance from the public purse so that the fat cat people who are 'the powers that be' can live the good life for as long as they all live individually!

If you are a person who can think for yourself the powers that be are very wary of you because they don't want the public at large knowing what is really happening!

[mike tesko]

The earth is fundamentally flat in orientation, which revolves around the 'north star'...

Approximately half of the surface of the earth is illuminated by the power of the sun at any one given time!
It rotates around 'the equator of the flat earth' which itself is a path of flight governed by the position of the 'north star' !
Daylight and darkness are thus created as the sun moves above the earth in the firmament, in a constant journey!

[mike tesko]

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[mike tesko]

Gravity does not exist in the form that we know it!

[mike tesko]

The flat earth itself is static and does not rotate or revolve around anything!

The sun, the moon, the so called planets, and star constellations, revolve and rotate around the 'north star' in the earths firmament, of that it is certain - everybody on earth, everything on earth, stands upright (except for bats which hang upside down in caves and other habitats), nothing alive exists, functions or operates upside down, or side ways on, this way or that way! Rain falls down everywhere! Plants, Shrubs and trees sprout and grow upwards! Birds fly with their bellies closest to 'terra firma', etc...

Aeroplanes and its passengers, motor vehicles and their occupants, and boats manned by fishermen, either fly the right way up, drive the right way up, and or sail the right way up! There simply is no room or possibility, for anything to be upside down, side ways on this way, or that way - trust what I'm saying, the earth is primarily flat, it's not a globe, it can't be a globe, or there would be no reality! There would be no reality because we would be existing in total chaos! Where we and everything else was the right way up, upside down, side way on 'this way', and 'that way', all at the same time depending upon 'someone elses point of view', or 'reference point'!

It's nonsense!

[mike tesko]

I am more and more inclined to think that Admiral Byrds voyage to the South Pole is the key to understanding the earth, its shape, its function, and discoveries (some already acted upon)!