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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #300 on: January 25, 2018, 11:38:AM »
I am more and more inclined to think that Admiral Byrds voyage to the South Pole is the key to understanding the earth, its shape, its function, and discoveries (some already acted upon)!

I am currently carrying out research into 'Admiral Byrds voyage to the South Pole' and the huge armada of fleet and personel which appears in the main to be masked by and in elements of secrecy! We know that vast resources were committed to the operation, and we know that hardware and human life was lost as the expedition retreated hastily back toward what we term as civilisation!

So, what was it that sent Admiral Bird and this enormous task force packing from the South Pole?
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #301 on: January 25, 2018, 11:43:AM »
I am currently carrying out research into 'Admiral Byrds voyage to the South Pole' and the huge armada of fleet and personel which appears in the main to be masked by and in elements of secrecy! We know that vast resources were committed to the operation, and we know that hardware and human life was lost as the expedition retreated hastily back toward what we term as civilisation!

So, what was it that sent Admiral Bird and this enormous task force packing from the South Pole?

The powers that be, don't want the public at large to know anything about what Admiral Byrd and his fleet, were confronted by!!!
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #302 on: January 25, 2018, 11:44:AM »
I shall try to make it my buisiness to find out, using unorthodox intelligence!
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #303 on: January 25, 2018, 11:48:AM »
What I do know, is that up is up, down is down, sideways on this way, and that way, is sideways on this way, and that way, I know that the earth is primarily flat and that its not a globe (it can't be), I know that Admiral Byrd went to the north pole without any problems worthy of note, but that something rather astonishing occurred or happened during his voyage to the South Pole!
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #304 on: January 25, 2018, 11:50:AM »
What I do know, is that up is up, down is down, sideways on this way, and that way, is sideways on this way, and that way, I know that the earth is primarily flat and that its not a globe (it can't be), I know that Admiral Byrd went to the north pole without any problems worthy of note, but that something rather astonishing occurred or happened during his voyage to the South Pole!

I can't understand why such a huge armada and fleet as was sent to the South Pole, should be sent packing in fear of life and destruction, from and during that expedition?
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #305 on: January 25, 2018, 11:52:AM »
I can't understand why such a huge armada and fleet as was sent to the South Pole, should be sent packing in fear of life and destruction, from and during that expedition?

What, did Admiral Byrd, and the other pioneers, discover or were they 'confronted' by?
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #306 on: January 25, 2018, 11:57:AM »
What, did Admiral Byrd, and the other pioneers, discover or were they 'confronted' by?

The most obvious response, in view of the rapid retreat by Admiral Byrd and his armada from the south pole, suggests that whatever it was, or whoever it was, were not seeking to be friendly towards the armada! Whhatever it was, or whoever they were were not wanting to establish friendship - the welcoming party, in whatever its format was keen to repel admiral Byrd and the armada...
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #307 on: January 25, 2018, 11:58:AM »
So, what was it that Admiral Byrd and his convey unearthed or discovered?
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #308 on: January 25, 2018, 12:08:PM »
I am not an expert, and do not profess to be, but what I am good at is research and finding out what the truth is - and I can say with my hand on my heart that the earth is fundamentally flat in orientation, everybody on earth, every living insect, creature, Bird, fish, aeroplane and its passengers, motor car and its occupants, and boats all operate and function the right way up! There is only one true up and one true down, there is only one true left, and one true right - it doesn't matter upon which part of the earth a person, or an insect, or a bird, or a fish, or a motor car, or an aeroplane and its passengers, or a boat function, there is only one orientation that all or any of these function and operate, and that is that they are all upright in the flat earth module all of the time!

Being good at research doesn't prove your argument, plus, we are all the 'right way up' - given that there is no 'wrong way up'.
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #309 on: January 25, 2018, 12:37:PM »
. . . subject to spin (in a controlled environment) - people are flung by centrifugal force against the outer edge of the space they occupy! . . . There is no way that a person, or people at different locations upon the earth, would all somehow defy the laws of nature and be all earthbound, because the laws of centrifugal force would need to be turned upon its head! . . . It would be an impossibility!!
You've made that point many times, but you haven't done the appropriate arithmetic. Someone spun round in a machine might feel, say, 1.5g, where 1g is "normal gravity". The corresponding centrifugal effect at the equator due to an earth spin rate of one full revolution per day is about 0.0035g. In England, it's about 0.002g. That's hardly a major effect, but it's measurable and anyone can confirm these figures (and hence confirm the spinning globe model) by using a suitable spring balance.

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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #310 on: January 25, 2018, 12:41:PM »
I am more and more inclined to think that Admiral Byrds voyage to the South Pole is the key to understanding the earth, its shape, its function, and discoveries (some already acted upon)!

I shall try to make it my buisiness to find out, using unorthodox intelligence!

No need, there's an interview on Youtube! No ice wall or secret lands beyond it the man is talking about Antarctica! Watch the video and note how Byrd keeps referring to 'the bottom of the world' and mentions the '. Oh and they were NEVER sent packing in fear of their lives!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_E._Byrd

https://steemit.com/flatearth/@kerriknox/debunking-the-flat-earth-admiral-byrd-conspiracy-part-3-of-4-the-flat-earth-antarctica-conspiracy
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #312 on: January 25, 2018, 02:25:PM »
Being good at research doesn't prove your argument, plus, we are all the 'right way up' - given that there is no 'wrong way up'.

Its easy for you to say that but you can't prove it..

Your saying that a person standing at or on or in different parts of the earth are standing in a different orientation to eachother, and that depending upon who might be able to obserbve who, that the same persson could in theory be 'standing upright'? Standing 'sideways on this way'? Standing 'upside Down'?, and Standing 'sideways on that way', all 'at the same time'?

How crazy is that / this?
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #313 on: January 25, 2018, 02:29:PM »
You've made that point many times, but you haven't done the appropriate arithmetic. Someone spun round in a machine might feel, say, 1.5g, where 1g is "normal gravity". The corresponding centrifugal effect at the equator due to an earth spin rate of one full revolution per day is about 0.0035g. In England, it's about 0.002g. That's hardly a major effect, but it's measurable and anyone can confirm these figures (and hence confirm the spinning globe model) by using a suitable spring balance.

The equator does not run around the middle of a globe earth, it circulates around the flat earth on the same plane. Your calculations obviously refer to the equator on the flat earth module and not the globe earth module, and you can't distinguish one from the other!
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Re: Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?
« Reply #314 on: January 25, 2018, 03:47:PM »
Your calculations obviously refer to the equator on the flat earth module and not the globe earth module, and you can't distinguish one from the other!
My values were based on a spinning round earth model. In that model, someone on the equator is being carried round at a speed of roughly 1000 mph due to the earth's spin. I've given you the g-value that results to show that it's quite small and wouldn't fling one off the earth. If one can get the same values from a static flat earth model, what causes them according to that model and how are they worked out? Your specific objection to the spinning round earth model (based on that 1000 mph speed) fails even if one can get the same g-values using a static flat earth model.