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Offline Jane

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I myself was in direct contact with BT engineers who knew all there was to know about the telephones in use at the farm, at police headquarters, in the sub stations in that era, and my eyes were opened when I learned the truth about the garbage the prosecution had used during the trial! I can assure everyone that what I was told is accurate - the off the hook phone back at the house could not remain in a off the hook state all the way from 3.42am until it was terminated at 7.47am, the system in use at the substation would have reset the phone line back at the farmhouse after a specific period of time! That period would not have lasted or exceeded over an unbroken 4 hour period!

Thats what I know...

Funnily enough, so was Caroline. I wonder what are the chances of it being the same person. She's posted what she learned from him on several occasions, but I don't suppose she'll mind doing it again.

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Then why bother arguing against something which in your mind is a foregone conclusion ? I don't get it.

Well, unless it's escaped your notice, Lookout, despite that there are some here who don't believe me, and don't believe I know these people, I'm actually surrounded by them here, where I live -although those who were Nevill and June's friends are dropping off this mortal coil very quickly- and not ALL think that Jeremy is guilty. I'm hoping to have lunch with one such soon. Just because I believe he's guilty I'm not so closed minded that I'm not interested in hearing other's stories.

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A record exists of the '999' call that was transferred by the operator from the farmhouse to the control room at 6.09am..
No, a police record exists that mentions "999", but the operator in question stated that it was the police who asked for the WHF line to be connected to the police HQ, and that she didn't use the emergency system (because she wasn't allowed to).

If no such call was made and transferred, how did the lady operator use the '999' open line system to link the phones at the house to the control room - she couldn't do that if the phone had simply been off the hook!
She stated that she didn't use the emergency system. She had already been "eavesdropping" on the WHF line. She would have known if someone had replaced the receiver at WHF and dialled 999.

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Funnily enough, so was Caroline. I wonder what are the chances of it being the same person. She's posted what she learned from him on several occasions, but I don't suppose she'll mind doing it again.

During the trial the prosecution tried to suggest that if Neville had called Jeremy, that Jeremy would not have been able to call out until a set period of time had elapsed, but it turns out that if the cradle had been depressed at the farmhouse during Nevilles call, that Jeremy would have been able to call Neville back as he claimed he had done only to get an 'engaged tone'! At the time Jeremy was reporting an 'engaged tone' Neville was making his 3.26am call to the cops telling them 'My daughter has got one of my guns, and she is going berserk'...

By 3.42am, the telephone inside the house was 'off the hook', with no-one using it...

It remained 'off the hook' until 5.57am, when it suddenly and inexplicably became 'engaged'...

At around this time, or shortly afterwards a request was made by a living victim inside the farmhouse for an ambulance to be called out to the scene, the call in which this request was made, was linked directly to the police control room using the '999' open line, because the call was a '999' call. If it hadn't been a '999' call the operator would not have been able to patch the call through to the control room! The other matter worth raising is that at at least two key moments when the operator checked the phone at the farmhouse, a dog was reported to be heard barking!

The dog (Crispy) as we all know was hiding under the bed in an upstairs bedroom, where the round finger dial phone was normally plugged in! For all anybody knows, the round finger dial phone may have been 'off the hook' at 3.42am in the main bedroom, and still 'off the hook' in the main bedroom when the operator reported hearing the dog barking, and that somebody unplugged the round finger dial phone from its upstairs main bedroom socket, after the second occasion the dog was heard barking, and that person who I understand to have been Sheila took the round finger dial phone downstairs to the kitchen and plugged it in the kitchen socket shortly after or around 6am, and made a '999' call requesting an ambulance, a call which the operator patched through to police control using the '999' open line system! The operator could not have done this if there was no '999' call! The reason the phone at the farmhouse is said to have become mysteriously 'engaged' at 5.47am, was because somebody unplugged the round finger dial phone from its upstairs main bedroom socket! Whilst it remained unplugged for the entire period until someone replugged it in downstairs in the kitchen, and because the digital phone which was normally plugged in at the kitchen socket had been 'unplugged' by someone beforehand, anyone trying to ring the farmhouse or trying to check the state of the phone by 'that stage' would get a constant 'engaged tone' which was what did occur! Cops have known all along that Sheila was still alive inside the farmhouse which was why the seige lasted as long as it did! They know the round finger dial phone was 'off the hook' upstairs in the main bedroom for the entire period 3.42am to around 5.55am, they know this because the dog under the bed in that room was barking at those key moments! The line at the farmhouse became mysteriously 'engaged' because Sheila unplugged the bedroom phone and took it with her downstairs to the kitchen where she eventually plugged it into the kitchen socket and made a '999' call, which the operator patched through to the control room at 6.09am - the open line '999' call remained active for the entire period between 6.09am to 7.57am, included in this recording was the shooting incident inwhich Sheila got shot in the kitchen! Within 12 minutes of her getting shot in the kitchen and with only two of the bodies of the five victims locatyed and designated as being dead by that stage, a dead male, a dead female, a murder, and a suicide, cops terminated the '999' call because a cop had shot Sheila and he thought he had killed her, her death being spoken of as a suicide at and by that stage!

This account is the most accurate that anybody not directly involved in the shootings of Sheila Caffell, will ever get to hear about, she got shot once downstairs in the kitchen, and secondly upstairs on the bedroom floor once her body had been moved to there from on top of the bed! Sheila Caffell sustained the fatal second shot at 9.13am, whilst senior officers were performing 'informatives'...

The truth will now have to be acknowleged by the despicable authorities!!!
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 09:48:PM by mike tesko »
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No, a police record exists that mentions "999", but the operator in question stated that it was the police who asked for the WHF line to be connected to the police HQ, and that she didn't use the emergency system (because she wasn't allowed to).
She stated that she didn't use the emergency system. She had already been "eavesdropping" on the WHF line. She would have known if someone had replaced the receiver at WHF and dialled 999.

How do you know that the operator even made her own witness statement?

You can't be certain, nobody can be! Cops are known to have made composite witness statements for eachother and different witnesses without their knowlege or consent! I stand by what I have said because its the truth!

I believe the contents of the attached extract tell a story in favour of my account!
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Documentary police evidence exists which confirms the phone at the farmhouse was 'off the hook' between 3.42am and about 5.55am...

Alternative documentary police evidence exists to show or indicate that at around 5.57am, the phone line at the farmhouse was reported as being 'engaged'...

By 6.09am, it does not matter whether the police asked the operator to patch the 'engaged' line through to the control room, or if the operator did this by her own judgement, the call could not have been patched through as defined unless it had been a '999' call in the first instance..

The so called 'eavesdrop' lasted from between 6.09am to 7.57am that same morning! It got terminated within 12 minutes of two bodies reportedly dead in the kitchen upon entry! One dead male, and one dead female, a murder, and a suicide (7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, and 7.45am messages and info' refers)! Why terminate the 'eavesdrop' at such a crucial stage in the proceedings? The answer to this question rests with the nature of the death of the female at and by that stage, reported as being dead in the kitchen, by way of a suicide, without any gun being present downstairs in the kitchen to support her suicde! Only a police weapon! The cut off of the 'eavesdrop at such a crucial stage in the proceedings conveniently serves to enable DCI Harris to talk with ACC 'Peter' Simpson using the round finger dial phone in the kitchen! What did Harris and Simpson talk about? How long did this conversation last? Why are Essex police so reluctant to want to talk about what Harris and Simpson must have been talking about?

What happened between 7.57am when the 'eavesdrop' which had been on going from as long ago as 6.09am, got terminated, and 8.10am when the other threee bodies of the five victims got discovered upstairs, and in turn what took place between 8.10am the discovery of bodies three, four and five, and 8.44am when the police surgeon, Dr Craig arrived to pronounce the five victims all as being dead? Essex police are hiding something sinister! They know they shot Sheila Caffell, they know they are responsible for killing her! They know that Sheila did shoot and over power and kill the other four victims! You could not make up the sort of things which leap out of the file in this case at you! Things which were recorded contemporaneously, not fabricated with the benefit of malice aforethought, as per the dodgy police witness statement accounts, many of which are composite versions of their supposed evidence that many probably never even saw or knew the contents of! There is no valid evidence which supports Jeremy Bamber as being the killer of these five victims! Its all dodgy, fabricated wishful thinking on the part of almost every prosecution witness relied upon during the trial. If I saw one miniscule fact or reason which serves to confirm Jeremy Bambers guilt in these matters I would have fallen into the guilters camp long long ago! I would have condemned him, with good reason for doing so! But there is no reliable evidence, not one shred that he shot, beat, or that he overpowered and killed anybody in cold blood, or that he somehow was able to trick the police into shooting his sister dead, and make the police, senior officers amongst those responsible for Sheila Caffells death, into thinking that Sheila had somehow committed suicide? Committed suicide when the cops had shot her? Committed suicide when the cops had staged her death to make it look like she had taken her own life, when in fact by virtue of close scrutiny anyone can see that she had not taken her own life - she had been killed by another! Cops were quite happy whilstever the case was being processed through the Coroners Court System! Their problems started once the matter became a criminal investigation! By then a lot of water had gone under the bridge, they were in too deeep to do a 'U' turn. Encouraged by suspicious relatives, cops threw Jeremy Bamber to the wolves...
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:26:PM by mike tesko »
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I might be prepared to believe that there are documents being withheld which the Home Secretary either hasn't read due to neglect or act of deliberate intent by powers that be.
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I might be prepared to believe that there are documents being withheld which the Home Secretary either hasn't read due to neglect or act of deliberate intent by powers that be.

I was told the home office don't have the power to make EP release documents. It has to be the DPP I think .


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DCI 'Taff' Jones, not only knew that Jeremy Bamber had not been directly involved in the five deaths, he had the benefit of knowing the truth surounding exactly how Sheila Caffell had met her end after the police forced their way into the farmhouse! He had the benefit of the coded so called suicide note recovered from Sheila Caffells bedside cabinet, where it provided clues to her mindset before she even discharged any shot into any of her victims, near to the midnight hour, she would go downstairs to collect the gun, she would shoot mum and force dad to phone Jeremy to try to get him to come to the farmhouse so that she could shoot him and kill him as well! 'Taff' suspected that when Neville had called Jeremy that he may well have been forced to use the round finger dial phone in his bedroom, he reasoned this was the case because Sheila had unplugged it much later on that morning at a time which coincided with the phone line at the farmhouse having become mysteriously 'engaged' at around 5.57am, for several minutes until around 6.09am, when she made a '999' call once the round finger dial phone from the main bedroom which had been replugged in at the kitchen socket! He was satisfied that no-one but Sheila herself had previously unplugged the digital phone in the kitchen! Neville Bamber had been forceed to try and lure Jeremy to the farm, so that Sheila could kill him too!
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I was told the home office don't have the power to make EP release documents. It has to be the DPP I think .
Well I'm staggered if that's true because the Home Secretary is elected and therefore accountable to us. Previous Home Secretaries have increased prisoners' tariffs so they must have some power.

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The truth regarding what actually happened inside whf before and after police forced their way into the farmhouse can be gleaned by reference to the contemporaneously recorded notes and reports, facts which were noted down spontaneously, not with the benefit of malice aforethought which creeps into any investigation when cops and the authorities try to instigate a cover up of sorts for one reason or another! Malice aforethought is a tool frequently relied upon by those in authority who are hell bent on framing somebody or other, just so long as none of the shit which attaches itself to the preverbial fan whenever these kind of miscarriages of justice fall under scrutiny! The bottom line is that Sheila got shot by the cops, she didn't shoot herself and Jeremy did not shoot her dead! She was unconscious by the time the second shot got inflicted, she would have known very little if anything at all about it when it occurred! They moved her body from on top of the bed onto the main bedroom floor and introduced the rifle to her body which fire the all important fatal shot! Manipulation of the photographic albums by the bad apple cops and CPS tells its own story! Interfering with exhibit references and substituting exhibits here, there and everywhere, sings out like distasteful puke! Composite witness statements here, there, and everywhere, sometimes two or three different versions of the same witnesses ccomposite statements, the contents of which witnesses may never have even seen let alone ever read, or signed as being true!
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The truth regarding what actually happened inside whf before and after police forced their way into the farmhouse can be gleaned by reference to the contemporaneously recorded notes and reports, facts which were noted down spontaneously, not with the benefit of malice aforethought which creeps into any investigation when cops and the authorities try to instigate a cover up of sorts for one reason or another! Malice aforethought is a tool frequently relied upon by those in authority who are hell bent on framing somebody or other, just so long as none of the shit which attaches itself to the preverbial fan whenever these kind of miscarriages of justice fall under scrutiny! The bottom line is that Sheila got shot by the cops, she didn't shoot herself and Jeremy did not shoot her dead! She was unconscious by the time the second shot got inflicted, she would have known very little if anything at all about it when it occurred! They moved her body from on top of the bed onto the main bedroom floor and introduced the rifle to her body which fire the all important fatal shot! Manipulation of the photographic albums by the bad apple cops and CPS tells its own story! Interfering with exhibit references and substituting exhibits here, there and everywhere, sings out like distasteful puke! Composite witness statements here, there, and everywhere, sometimes two or three different versions of the same witnesses ccomposite statements, the contents of which witnesses may never have even seen let alone ever read, or signed as being true!

The role played by 'Dr Harris' at the scene after 9.13am, tells its own story!
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The role played by 'Dr Harris' at the scene after 9.13am, tells its own story!

His role at the scene after 9.13am, has been spirited out of the equation rather conveniently! But he was there, and his involvement confirms that cops knew and know that Sheila was alive inside the farmhouse long after cops entered at around 7.30am that morning, they know she was still barely alive right up until 9.13am, the time the second shot brought Sheila's life to an abrupt conclusion!
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In David Shaws account, he claims that Sheila fled upstairs and shot herself before police could get to her, but that account is plainly wrong! She did not shoot herself, the crime scene was 'rigged' by the cops, especially in the main bedroom! Cops wouldn't have gone to these lengths if Sheila had simply but tragically just shot herself...
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In David Shaws account, he claims that Sheila fled upstairs and shot herself before police could get to her, but that account is plainly wrong! She did not shoot herself, the crime scene was 'rigged' by the cops, especially in the main bedroom! Cops wouldn't have gone to these lengths if Sheila had simply but tragically just shot herself...

I received information by word of mouth a few weeks ago that evidence from Dr Harris was lodged on the Coroners Court file! If this information is factual then of course it will be or should be the beginning of the end in this long drawn out affair! The original inquest proceedings got adjorned until I think May 1986, because of the complicated nature involving how Sheila Caffell had died! The Coroner was not concerned with who shot her, only the cause of her death! It was Dr Harris who officially pronounced Sheila as being dead, and it was a requirement that his endorsement to that effect be placed on  the Coroners file! The problem with that, however, is that in the criminal case proceedings, Dr Craig supposedly pronounced Sheila as being dead at and by 8.44am - two different doctors, pronouncing Sheila as being dead at two different times, one doctor (Harris) pronouncing Sheila as dead after 9.30am as part of the Coroners case, and Dr Craig pronouncing her as dead at 8.44am the same morning as part of the criminal case!

This information was passed to me confidentially, and I was requested not to repeat what I had been told immediately! But I have the green light to speak about it now...
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