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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #300 on: August 03, 2017, 11:34:AM »
If June and Nevill let him spend the money it was their choice and not your business.   If burglars never burgled anywhere unless the money was left outside the door for them there'd be no burglaries.  I would imagine if security was poor and it was dark, quiet and accessible it was as much open to burglary as much as anywhere else but this is all irrelevant as we know it was JB.

Bamber said himself he shouldn't have spent the money.

But as you said, Nevill & June may have let Bamber spend all the money on lavish meals after he told them. Which was nice.

Burglars rob places which have valuble items inside. Such as houses. That's 'none of you're business' either.
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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #301 on: August 03, 2017, 11:42:AM »
There are a lot of similarities between the caravan break in & the massacre -

Both were crimes against his family.

Both were for monetory gain.

Both involved travelling to the venue without being seen.

Both were within the same year.

Both involved staging the scene.

Both involved Julie Mugford. Either as an accomplice, or an early morning confidant.

After both crimes the relatives quickly had Bamber as a suspect.

Both were one off crimes which Bamber would not be able to do again.

Both crimes saw Bamber quickly start spending the financial gains.

Both crime locations Bamber knew how to get into the building.

Both crimes Bamber knew how to get out of the building.

Both crimes Bamber knew the lay out inside the buildings.

Both crimes Bamber tried to insinuate another person or people - Sheila/burglars.

Both crimes were late at night.

Both crimes were planned.

Both crimes Bamber believed he would not be charged. 

Both were crimes Bamber would never had admitted to comitting to the police,  unless Julie had come forward. He has so far only admitted to the caravan break in

Both crimes showed a lack of respect towards the family & the law. 

Both crimes carried the risk of being disinherited.

Both crimes had Bamber making contradictory claims

Both crimes were mentioned in the judges summing up.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2017, 11:43:AM by Adam »
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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #302 on: August 03, 2017, 12:13:PM »
Bamber said himself he shouldn't have spent the money.

But as you said, Nevill & June may have let Bamber spend all the money on lavish meals after he told them. Which was nice.

Burglars rob places which have valuble items inside. Such as houses. That's 'none of you're business' either.
What's 'none of' my 'business'? 
« Last Edit: August 03, 2017, 12:14:PM by maggie »

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #303 on: August 03, 2017, 12:36:PM »
As far as I am aware, correct me if I'm wrong, until after the murders, nobody knew that it was JM and Jeremy who stole the money.

Wrong again Adam, why do you keep doing this it's so annoying
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #304 on: August 03, 2017, 12:37:PM »
Bamber said himself he shouldn't have spent the money.

But as you said, Nevill & June may have let Bamber spend all the money on lavish meals after he told them. Which was nice.

Burglars rob places which have valuble items inside. Such as houses. That's 'none of you're business' either.

What a charmer you are
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #305 on: August 03, 2017, 12:38:PM »
What's 'none of' my 'business'?

More ridiculous and rude posts from Adam
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #306 on: August 03, 2017, 12:44:PM »
What's 'none of' my 'business'?

Maggie Adam said that not Jackie seems to have got a little confusing

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #307 on: August 03, 2017, 12:44:PM »
The 'Countdown to murders' says otherwise. As said by Barbara Wilson I believe.

Didn't RB say 'we all know who that was' after the break in.

It wouldn't be hard to work out it was Bamber. He said himself he 'would be the number one suspect but no one would be able to prove it'.

There was no reason why random burglars would target a caravan office as there may be nothing of any value in there. Or it will be locked in a safe.

If Bamber did it to highlight security problems, as he said, then he would have told Nevill & June straight away. So they would know about the apparent security problems.

Bit surprised Nevill & June let him spend all the money after he told them. Maybe he told them after he had spent all the money.





Interesting - so perhaps it was RB who told the police he suspected Jeremy and Julie of the break in - that makes sense . Because how do we know Julie "volunteered" the information .

Adam might have hit the nail on the head .

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #308 on: August 03, 2017, 12:50:PM »
Not sure why Bamber would stage the scene to make it look like a caravan break in, if he just wanted to highlight security problems. Seems to be going beyond the call of duty.

A break in by burglars would be via a smashed window or door. I understand Bamber used an inside key he could get access to via the letterbox. Burglars would not know about this key.

what is the point of this - you know he did it and the method proved what he was saying , security was lax .

But what you don't know for sure is  how the police found out or whether June and Neville knew ? If it is from a book what is the original source - whose statement because a book is not an OS as you well know .

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #309 on: August 03, 2017, 12:52:PM »
There are a lot of similarities between the caravan break in & the massacre -

Both were crimes against his family.

Both were for monetory gain.

Both involved travelling to the venue without being seen.

Both were within the same year.

Both involved staging the scene.

Both involved Julie Mugford. Either as an accomplice, or an early morning confidant.

After both crimes the relatives quickly had Bamber as a suspect.

Both were one off crimes which Bamber would not be able to do again.

Both crimes saw Bamber quickly start spending the financial gains.

Both crime locations Bamber knew how to get into the building.

Both crimes Bamber knew how to get out of the building.

Both crimes Bamber knew the lay out inside the buildings.

Both crimes Bamber tried to insinuate another person or people - Sheila/burglars.

Both crimes were late at night.

Both crimes were planned.

Both crimes Bamber believed he would not be charged. 

Both were crimes Bamber would never had admitted to comitting to the police,  unless Julie had come forward. He has so far only admitted to the caravan break in

Both crimes showed a lack of respect towards the family & the law. 

Both crimes carried the risk of being disinherited.

Both crimes had Bamber making contradictory claims

Both crimes were mentioned in the judges summing up.


There are a lot of similarities in your posts  ::) but we don't judge you for it .


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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #310 on: August 03, 2017, 12:54:PM »
What's 'none of' my 'business'?

Maggie Adam is just being rude and disrespectful to you he seems to lack manners :(

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #311 on: August 03, 2017, 12:55:PM »
Wrong again Adam, why do you keep doing this it's so annoying

https://youtu.be/7OFTW_1mDHk

12 minutes in.
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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #312 on: August 03, 2017, 12:55:PM »
Both crimes were mentioned in the judges summing up


Hmmm I thought that Jeremy had not actually been convicted of breaking into the caravan park ? And I thought a judge was not supposed to mention previous crimes ( especially when not officially convicted ) in case of prejudice ?

That's interesting too .

Thank you Adam , does seem like the judge was a bit biased .


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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #313 on: August 03, 2017, 12:56:PM »
https://youtu.be/7OFTW_1mDHk

12 minutes in.

say what it is because some of us have to work ( unlike others ) and I only have 5 mins left in my break  ;D

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Re: could jermy have walked to whf.
« Reply #314 on: August 03, 2017, 12:58:PM »
Bamber said himself he shouldn't have spent the money.

But as you said, Nevill & June may have let Bamber spend all the money on lavish meals after he told them. Which was nice.

Burglars rob places which have valuble items inside. Such as houses. That's 'none of you're business' either.

where is the original source that Jeremy told his parents about the break in ?