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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #915 on: July 29, 2017, 12:22:PM »
Mike, I'm not trying to get you to say anything! Why would I? I know you weren't there. All you can do is say what you THINK may have happened from the way you choose to interpret what you read. All I -and others- can do is deconstruct it in a way which makes it believable to us, ie I fail to see how police could spend 10 minutes -CAN they be that accurate?- with someone they'd shot without doing EVERYTHING in their power to administer first aid. I do NOT believe they were so junior or inexperienced that they'd believe they'd killed someone who had only received a slight wound.

All I can say, based on what I know, is that the cops in the kitchen believed that Sheila had been killed! We have to believe (but you don't) that cops did not leave the kitchen until after 7.45am, because the previous radio messages describing the presence of two bodies in the kitchen are timed at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, and 7.42am! Two bodies found, the body of one dead male, 'AND' the body of one dead female, followed by 'LINDA'S' reference at 7.45am, to the deaths of the two victims, as a murder, and a suicide!!!

Even (I shit my pants) PS Bews knows two bodies were reported as present in the kitchen because he passed key messages from the scene to the control room! Where did he get this information from? He doesn't say, because he daren't say! He daren't say beccause the blighter knows that if he does say, that the game is up for the cops!
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #916 on: July 29, 2017, 12:25:PM »
All I can say, based on what I know, is that the cops in the kitchen believed that Sheila had been killed! We have to believe (but you don't) that cops did not leave the kitchen until after 7.45am, because the previous radio messages describing the presence of two bodies in the kitchen are timed at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, and 7.42am! Two bodies found, the body of one dead male, 'AND' the body of one dead female, followed by 'LINDA'S' reference at 7.45am, to the deaths of the two victims, as a murder, and a suicide!!!

Even (I shit my pants) PS Bews knows two bodies were reported as present in the kitchen because he passed key messages from the scene to the control room! Where did he get this information from? He doesn't say, because he daren't say! He daren't say beccause the blighter knows that if he does say, that the game is up for the cops!

Then, there is the firearms incident log entries...

Who was logging all the messages passed from inside the farm back and forth to the senior officers situated at the forward control point?
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #917 on: July 29, 2017, 12:25:PM »
Then, there is the firearms incident log entries...

Who was logging all the messages passed from inside the farm back and forth to the senior officers situated at the forward control point?

Who was the log keeper?
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #918 on: July 29, 2017, 12:26:PM »
Who was the log keeper?

What reference was given to the audio recording of the open '999' line call from the kitchen to the control room?
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #919 on: July 29, 2017, 12:27:PM »
What we are dealing with here, is 'police and state controlled corruption' at its worst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 12:31:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #920 on: July 29, 2017, 12:34:PM »
I would invite each and everyone of you to examine your conscienes, and read the opening statement of the typed SOCO REPORT made by DI 'Ron' Cook (second SOCO team at the scene) where he outlines in general what had taken place before he and his team took control of the farmhouse from 10am, onward...

Read it, and think about what Cook is saying!!
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 05:56:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #921 on: July 29, 2017, 05:57:PM »
There was a seige and persons (had been) shot dead!

A person or persons (had been) shot dead - A person had committed suicide!

(Source of information not known).
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 06:00:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #922 on: July 29, 2017, 06:03:PM »
Cook and the second SOCO team did not arrive at the scene until 9.20am, and by that stage Sheila had already been shot once downstairs in the kitchen as per the police radio log contents, and once in the main bedroom after her body had been moved to there from the bed! Upon arrival at the scene he was told exactly what had taken place involving the death of Sheila Caffell, yet in this report he claims not to know where the information mentioned came from. The truth of the matter is that he did not want to name anyone involved in the killing of Sheila Caffell!!!
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 06:07:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #923 on: July 29, 2017, 06:10:PM »
There was a seige and persons (had been) shot dead!

A person or persons (had been) shot dead - A person had committed suicide!

(Source of information not known).


There was a seige and persons (had been) shot dead! Sheila had shot the other four victims...

A person or persons (had been) shot dead - A person had committed suicide! Sheila was shot twice by the police (once in the kitchen, and secondly in the main bedroom), and her death presented as a suicide!

« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 06:11:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #924 on: July 29, 2017, 06:16:PM »

There was a seige and persons (had been) shot dead! Sheila had shot the other four victims...

A person or persons (had been) shot dead - A person had committed suicide! Sheila was shot twice by the police (once in the kitchen, and secondly in the main bedroom), and her death presented as a suicide!

Whilst ever the matter was being processed through the Coroners Court system, cops didn't have to worry about the ammunition discrepancy. However, once the matter became a Criminal one destined to be taken through the Criminal Justice System, cops had to exchange the police round for a .22 LR Eley round that they arranged to be test fired via the anshuzt rifle, so that on the face of it both bullets (the original PV/19, and the substituted PV/20) had been fired via the anshuzt rifle, albeit, only one of these at the time of Sheila Caffells death, the other test fired around six weeks afterwards...
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #925 on: July 29, 2017, 06:32:PM »
Whilst ever the matter was being processed through the Coroners Court system, cops didn't have to worry about the ammunition discrepancy. However, once the matter became a Criminal one destined to be taken through the Criminal Justice System, cops had to exchange the police round for a .22 LR Eley round that they arranged to be test fired via the anshuzt rifle, so that on the face of it both bullets (the original PV/19, and the substituted PV/20) had been fired via the anshuzt rifle, albeit, only one of these at the time of Sheila Caffells death, the other test fired around six weeks afterwards...

What seems almost certain, was that cops had to have the co-operation of Malcolm Fletcher, their ballistics expert, and Peter Venezis the pathologist, in order to carry out the substitution of the original piece of badly fragmented bullet, and replacing it, with a whole test fired round!
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #926 on: July 29, 2017, 06:35:PM »
What seems almost certain, was that cops had to have the co-operation of Malcolm Fletcher, their ballistics expert, and Peter Venezis the pathologist, in order to carry out the substitution of the original piece of badly fragmented bullet, and replacing it, with a whole test fired round!

The pathologist knows that the original piece of bullet (PV/20)he removed from Sheila Caffells neck during autopsy on afternoon of 7th August 1985, was 'NOT A WHOLE BULLET'! Yet, for over 32 years or there abouts he has remained silent about it!
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #927 on: July 29, 2017, 06:55:PM »
The fact that the police surgeon, Dr Craig, pronounced Sheila as being dead at 8.44am, is referred to in the training video as an 'inexplicable error of judgement'!

Here's 'Bob' Millers notebook account of the rifle and Sheila Caffells body, after 9.30am:-

' In same room far side of bed, daughter with .22 rifle by her right side. Appears gunshot wounds to neck'...
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #928 on: July 29, 2017, 09:32:PM »
Sorry not quite getting your point mike ? Two visits saying same thing although I can't read all notes?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #929 on: July 29, 2017, 10:12:PM »
Oh Gawd!  ::)
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