Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Jane]

There was a seige and persons (had been) shot dead!

A person or persons (had been) shot dead - A person had committed suicide!

(Source of information not known).

Presumably, then, as the "source of information not known" this can be neither confirmed nor verified

[Jan]

Presumably, then, as the "source of information not known" this can be neither confirmed nor verified

It's is in one of the officer  statements on here that he had been called to a siege situation . But of course we don't know who told him that .

[Jan]

Odd so at 5.45 when there had been NOT a sound and NO movement why was an officer told this. 

[Steve_uk]

Odd so at 5.45 when there had been NOT a sound and NO movement why was an officer told this.

Was it Roch who posted a timeline? Does this slot into it?

[Jane]

Odd so at 5.45 when there had been NOT a sound and NO movement why was an officer told this.

Given that nothing/zero/zilch had occurred, or it would have been mentioned, it sounds as if someone had gone into panic mode.

[mike tesko]

Odd so at 5.45 when there had been NOT a sound and NO movement why was an officer told this.

Amazing all of this, in view of the contents of police radio messages and actions performed by control room staff who were manning an ' open '999' line link via the telephone in the kitchen to the control room, and all the implications associated with it...

[mike tesko]

Cops have lied and deceived, and fabricated an account, which could not possibly be true!

How much longer can people pretend to believe such utter bullshit and garbage?

[mike tesko]

Cops have lied and deceived, and fabricated an account, which could not possibly be true!

How much longer can people pretend to believe such utter bullshit and garbage?

It's time for action!

lets put an end to these falsified accounts, to these cop controlled lies, to this state oriented lies!!

Cops killed Sheila Caffell after they entered the kitchen farmhouse and bedroom, after 8.10am..

Sheila Caffell did not die on the main bedrroom floor until precisely 9.13am..

[mike tesko]

It's time for action!

lets put an end to these falsified accounts, to these cop controlled lies, to this state oriented lies!!

Cops killed Sheila Caffell after they entered the kitchen farmhouse and bedroom, after 8.10am..

Sheila Caffell did not die on the main bedrroom floor until precisely 9.13am..

This means that Jeremy Bambers convictions, are totally wrong!

He did not kill his sister, and he did not stage his sisters death scene as a suicide on the main bedroom floor - but cops did...

[Jan]

Given that nothing/zero/zilch had occurred, or it would have been mentioned, it sounds as if someone had gone into panic mode.

Yes ambulances called as well.


And Jeremy begged them to go into the house . Which could have meant the time of death would have been more apparent .

So he seemed more concerned than they did .

[mike tesko]

We are dealing with, a corrupted Criminal Justice system, involving corrupted Essex police, and the local CPS, and the local Magistrates court, and Crown Court. The corrupted Court of Appeal, and a corrupt CCRC...

[mike tesko]

We are dealing with, a corrupted Criminal Justice system, involving corrupted Essex police, and the local CPS, and the local Magistrates court, and Crown Court. The corrupted Court of Appeal, and a corrupt CCRC...

It's like dealing with those from the 'guilty camp' trying to get the authorities to look at the pros' and cons' in favour of this case being a miscarriage of justice! But a miscarriage of justice this case was, and is...

[Jan]

Problem is mike you need proof .

 And that has to come from someone who knows making a statement .

If either of the calls from whf could be proved he would be free . The officers involved who never made statements?

 Montgomery ? Why is he so silent ?

If the movement could be proven or anything happening in the farm ?

If you are correct someone knows and all they have to do is write to the home office and ask for amnesty . Then it would not even have to go to court .

[Caroline]

Yes ambulances called as well.


And Jeremy begged them to go into the house . Which could have meant the time of death would have been more apparent .

So he seemed more concerned than they did .

Begged? Where is that recorded?

Ambulances on standby in a siege situation - now why on earth is that odd?

Concerned or just eager?

[guest7363]

It's like dealing with those from the 'guilty camp' trying to get the authorities to look at the pros' and cons' in favour of this case being a miscarriage of justice! But a miscarriage of justice this case was, and is...

No Mike, I think that the guilty camp agree with part of your theory, Sheila did not shoot herself, someone else did.  So we have some common ground between us.