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Offline David1819

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #210 on: July 14, 2017, 06:50:PM »
I think you're correct, Steve. The so called suicide note looks to me like the sort of thing someone might write to give a reader the impression that it had been written by someone who was psychotic. Like the murders and the scene setting, it was over exaggerated.

They must have done a brilliant job  ::)


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« Reply #211 on: July 14, 2017, 06:57:PM »
They must have done a brilliant job  ::)



Why? They look nothing alike.  ::)
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« Reply #212 on: July 14, 2017, 07:20:PM »
They must have done a brilliant job  ::)



I haven't a clue what you're trying to say here, but noting that you say truth is incontrovertible, I can only think truth had gone out for the day if you're implying that the same hand was used.

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« Reply #213 on: July 14, 2017, 07:35:PM »
Whether the note is genuine or not does not automatically make her the murderer anyway.

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« Reply #214 on: July 14, 2017, 07:44:PM »
Whether the note is genuine or not does not automatically make her the murderer anyway.

No, it doesn't, however, although there re a few similarities with some of the letters, there are more differences.
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« Reply #215 on: July 14, 2017, 07:48:PM »
No, it doesn't, however, although there re a few similarities with some of the letters, there are more differences.

It would be odd, indeed, with so many letters, NOT to find one or two similarities, but even where the letters ARE similar, some of the words are slanting in opposite directions.

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« Reply #216 on: July 14, 2017, 08:55:PM »
It would be odd, indeed, with so many letters, NOT to find one or two similarities, but even where the letters ARE similar, some of the words are slanting in opposite directions.

The right had side uses loops and curls on letter such as Y and L - the left side does not.
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« Reply #217 on: July 14, 2017, 09:05:PM »
The right had side uses loops and curls on letter such as Y and L - the left side does not.

Yes. Overall, the right side has a much more rounded form than the left side.

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« Reply #218 on: July 15, 2017, 10:07:AM »
I think that there were posts before which showed how someone's handwriting changed during a psychotic episode . There would be differences but similarities as well . It would be a difficult thing to prove but not impossible. Like I said the handwritten diaries could help a lot because they would have presumably be written when she was going through different phases of her illness and could show changes in her handwriting. Personally I think it is obvious they are a vital piece of evidence . Shame they have been "lost"

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« Reply #219 on: July 15, 2017, 10:13:AM »
Here is just one paper on the subject so I think Davids point deserves attention

http://ijmds.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1075-1078-CR-handwriting.pdf

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« Reply #220 on: July 15, 2017, 10:29:AM »
In the vast majority of cases, you cannot trust police officers, they are literally criminals in uniform!

You cannot trust the CPS, they have license to fabricate and conspire against any defendant who is unfortunate enough to stand trial!, Without fear of ever being prosecuted for the Lies they tell, and promote!

You cannot trust in general, the Magistrates court system, it is there not to protect the public at large, but the criminals who operate within its system, including the police and the local CPS...

You cannot trust in general, the Crown Court system, because any defendant who stands trial is at an immediate disadvantage, guilty until proven innocent! If you are such a defendant and you fall into a particular category, the system works against justice, it favours the criminals in uniform, it's witnesses, the magistrates who sent the case for whatever reason to the crown court from the magistrates court, and they believe all the lies spouted by the CPS who are criminals in their own right, who cannot be prosecuted for telling lies, and generally fabricating evidence on a huge scale!

There is no such thing as 'a fair trial'. The prosecuting authorities will believe everything it's witnesses are prepared to say, even if it's a damn right lie!

The media, sensationalise the lies promoted by cops, the CPS, and reinforced by corrupt magistrate decisions, and the Crown court system!

All defendants should be tried not by brainwashed jurors, but by defendants convicted of offences which are similar to those a defendant stands accused of! In general, ordinary members of the public do not have a clue about what really goes on, involving the criminals in uniform, and the system which seeks to promote injustice!

Criminals in uniform hardly ever get prosecuted, even when there is an abundance of evidence available (all true) capable of convicting these low life public servants! If the truth be known, the extent of their dishonesty the greater it is, serves to work in their favour, they quite often get promoted, and receive dishonest pension rights!

Don't ever ask a police officer the time of day, its response might be affected by factors irrelevant to you - these criminals in uniform can make the time of day or night, anything they want or need it to be!

Cops are vicious thugs, they love inflicting violence on vulnerable suspects, they beat people, they kill people in custody, these low life scumbag criminals in uniform are absolutely and totally despicable! They lie, they fabricate, they role play, they are the spawn of the devil..

You cannot always trust or believe anything a cop / prosecution witness might say - this is because the witnesses themselves may not even make their own witness statements, crooked dishonest cops decide what goes into a witnesses witness statement!

You simply cannot rely upon, or trust, anything a criminal in uniform does, or says, or how they manipulate a prosecution witnesses statement which is invariably paraphrased by one of these crooked criminalised cops in uniform!

These criminals, the entire lot of them, think they are better than ordinary folk, but they are low life criminals in uniform and office!

I will now give the correct interpretation of what happened in the case of photographs taken inside the main bedroom at whf...

There were two teams of SOCO operating inside the farmhouse on the first morning of tragedy! The first team took photographs during an hour long period between 9am, and 10am. DC Oakey and another SOCO, whilst senior officers performed 'informatives' with the bodies of June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell in the main bedroom. At this time, items of furniture, clothing, the bed quilt, the rifle were all moved, taken out of the bedroom scene by the cops themselves, or as in the case of the rifle from the box room window, it was brought into the main bedroom, and placed at the main bedroom window, and on Sheila Caffells body at various times within this hour long period, so that by the time the second team of SOCO took control of the farmhouse at 10am, (Cook, Bird, Davidson, and Hammersley) the position of the two bodies (June and Sheila) had already been set by senior officers involved in the aforementioned practice of 'informatives'. Except for three photographs, and the original crime scene video, which surfaced several years ago, the rest of the crime scene photographs taken by DC Oakey (SOCO), and others, have remained withheld by Essex police and their cousins in corruption the CPS under the dishonest guise of 'public interest immunity'! This gives the false impression that cops and CPS have for over three decades been protecting the public from viewing gruesome images of victims, when if the truth be known the real reason cops and CPS have sought to withhold around 355 of the 581 photographs which were taken, is because these missing photographs which these official criminals in uniform and public office know that simply disclosing one of these such photographs will prove emphatically that the police shot Sheila Caffell dead inside the main bedroom by use of the anshuzt rifle which from around 7.15am had been placed at the first floor box room window and brought to Sheila's body in the main bedroom at a time (9.12am) when her body was laid on top of the bed, and she only having sustained or receive one shot to the neck by that stage! I have physically had possession of one such photograph, and been shown two others which show a solitary bullet hole in her neck, not two. DC Oakey took the photographs of Sheila's body laid on top of the bed when she had only been shot once! The rifle is not with her body when her body was photographed on the bed sporting a single bullet wound! The anshuzt rifle was brought from the box room to the main bedroom at 9am when senior officers set about performing 'informatives', with a view to finding an alternative explanation for the shooting of Sheila downstairs in the kitchen by a cop weapon! At 8.44am when the police surgeon, Dr Craig, pronounced Sheila dead, her body being on the far side of the bed with a rifle alongside her body, the weapon in question was the police rifle which had discharged the first shot across Sheila's neck! DC Oakley (SOCO), and DC Henderson (SOCO) took photographs of Sheila's body on top of the bed sporting only one shot to the neck, both with and without the police gun she had been shot with near her body! It is worth noting that none of the police or the police surgeon describe or identify the weapon with Sheila's body on the far side of the bed at 8.44am! This leaves it open for the police and their criminal cousins the CPS to suggest and imply that the weapon in question had been the anshuzt rifle which everyone now knows was resting at a different window in the box room at 8.44am, and this deception has been successfully carried off by a reliance upon PC Birds (SOCO) crime scene photographs which he took from 10am, onwards which shows Sheila's body in possession of that anshuzt rifle, and sporting two bullet wounds to her neck and her body no longer on top of the bed, but it had been lifted from the bed onto the bedroom floor so that 'informatives' could be carried out by senior officers! The earlier photographs taken by DC Oakey (SOCO), and DC Henderson (SOCO) which show a weapon alongside Sheila's body on the far side of the bed confirm that Sheila had only been shot once by that stage, and it is the police weapon which discharged that single bullet to her neck which was photographed in her possession, until at 9.12 am the anshuzt rifle was brought into the main bedroom from its original resting position against the box room window, and placed on Sheila's body as part of the 'informatives' being conducted by senior officers! At precisely 9.13 am whilst cops were in the process of gauging the muzzle of the anshuzt rifle against the trigger mechanism with this rifle on Sheila's body by arranging her hands and fingers, that the fatal shot under the point of Sheila's chin got discharged! Carelessly, no-one had bothered to check to see whether or not the anshuzt rifle was still loaded with live ammunition. As it turned out, this rifle had a live round in its breach! DC Oakey (SOCO) took at least one other photograph of Sheila after 9.13am which shows the barrel of the anshuzt rifle resting against the left hand side of her neck (photo' no. 26). This particular photograph was taken before 10 am! The other disclosed photographs identified by photographic numbers, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33 were taken by PC Bird (SOCO) after 10 am! Photograph 23 was taken before 10 am, and therefore not taken by PC Bird (albeit he claims he took it once it came to light during the October 1986 Cheltenham Crown court trial)! But, he didn't take it! He has lied about this because he realised the other SOCO team (DC Oakey and DC Henderson) had taken it and other photographs inside the main bedroom, or looking through the main bedroom door and showing the anshuzt rifle resting against the main bedroom window, at some stage between 9.13am and 10 am, before PC Bird (SOCO) had even set foot into the farmhouse and started taking any of his own photographs! The extra garments and equipment visible in photograph 23 (taken by DC Oakey/ DC Henderson) which by contrast is totally absent in photographs taken by PC Bird (SOCO) inside the main bedroom, highlights the extent the the main bedroom scene was tampered with, and stage managed by police prior to 10 am and the introduction of the second team of SOCO (Cook, Bird, Davidson and Hammersley) to record the scene in its dishonest state after 10am, on the pretense that what was being photographed after 10 am, was a totally undisturbed crime scene, when it actual fact it was a police inspired staged crime scene!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 10:36:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #221 on: July 15, 2017, 10:41:AM »
Here is just one paper on the subject so I think Davids point deserves attention

http://ijmds.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1075-1078-CR-handwriting.pdf




Interesting and also feasible regarding Sheila's state of mind.

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« Reply #222 on: July 15, 2017, 10:41:AM »
The extra garments, items on the chair in this photograph, were absent once PC Bird (SOCO) started Photographing the scene in the main bedroom after 10 am...

This can be proved by reference to other crime scene photographs taken by PC Bird (SOCO) inside the main bedroom after 10 am by which time all of this evidence had disappeared once cops beforehand had set the stage for the main bedroom to be dishonestly presented as untouched until after PC Bird (SOCO) finished taking his pictures!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 10:55:AM by mike tesko »
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« Reply #223 on: July 15, 2017, 11:13:AM »
This conspiracy involving the cops staging the crime scene inside the main bedroom and elsewhere in the farmhouse, went much further than getting PC Bird to photograph the main bedroom scene once the bodies of June and Sheila had been staged by the cops themselves in order to present the false case that the main bedroom and everything in it had remained undisturbed from it being discovered by 8.10am - PC Bird was tasked by senior officers to create false photographic schedules which served to disguise the existence of 358 photographs altogether! Many if not all of these photographs capable of confirming (a) that Sheila was fatally shot under the point of her chin after DC Oakey (SOCO) had photographed Sheila's body laid on top of the bed sporting only a single bullet wound to her neck! The police surgeon, Dr Craig, had already pronounced Sheila as being dead at 8.44am with what he said appeared to be a single bullet hole to her neck! Craig did not carry out any physical examination of Sheila's body at this stage! He was able to say that she was dead at this time, simply by giving the body a casual glancing look! Later with the arrival of DS Jones and DC Clark into the bedroom scene, they would both tell Ann Eaton later that the bodies of June and Sheila were found on top of the bed in the main bedroom, with a rifle on the bed between both bodies, and a bible on Sheila's chest! They would tell Ann Eaton that Sheila had been shot only once! What this tells us, is that Sheila had not yet received the second fatal shot under the point of the chin, until after Jones and Clark left the main bedroom scene...
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 11:14:AM by mike tesko »
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« Reply #224 on: July 15, 2017, 11:18:AM »
The original photographic albums containing all 581 photographs associated with the investigation, was known by the title 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS, ALBUM'. This was kept under lock and key inside a safe in ACC Peter Simpsons Office..
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