Kitchen telephone

[mike tesko]

Nobody ever asked PC West, or Malcom Bonnett, of PC Cracknell, or PC Norcup, whether Neville Bamber made a phone call to the police at around 3.20am / 3.26am, on that particular morning!

Everything, every analysis of worth points to the fact that Jeremy Bambers call during which he spoke to PC West was made from 3.36am! With this in mind, the occupants the of CA07 (3.35am) and CA05 (3.36am) were deployed to the incident Prior to Jeremy calling the police at 3.36am! West, Bonnett, Cracknell, Norcup, Bews, Myalls and Saxby all knew the truth regarding the fact Neville Bamber was alive at least until 3.33am that morning - hence why Cracknell and Norcup reacted and left for the scene at 3.36am! I agree in general with Bills interpretation, it's a sound analysis and is by any bodies standards believable (supported by the facts)...

[mike tesko]

PC West updated the occupants of CA07 en route to the scene, a journey they had already commenced prior to Jeremy calling the police and speaking to PC West! I feel sure there is evidence somewhere in the file regarding this aspect of the case! West only spoke to the occupants of CA07 only once to the best of my recollection after West had spoken to Jeremy! It's just a matter of finding the time he made that call after 3.36am...

[guest7363]

Don't worry about it.  I didn't set out to get other members backs up on here when I had my outburst. I'm sorry that I have got other member's backs up.  But sometimes members do flip, including me.  It escalates and turns things sour.

I've flipped wiith Adam recently as well.  And accused him of being some kind of police presence etc. Luckily he has a thick skin.  He just didn't seem bothered.

I think Kaldin was essentially a 50/50 poster and he would take Mike to task for making certain claims - though I think he kind of admired what Mike was trying to do and was also dubious about the prosecution case.  If Mike reads my posts - he will know that I have nver agreed with his rationale, that if it was ok for the proecution to bend evidence to suit their case - then it's ok for him to do similar in reverse.  A kind of tase of their own medicine.  But I think it's counter-productive.

I don't think you got anyone's back up, it's when the language starts, that's why no one interacts with Mike.  The forum doesn't deserve it, not that I'm bothered I was used to it in the mines but it's very off putting when it's not face to face. I would hate to see a good poster go in the same grave yard as Mike.

[JackieD]

Jackie, I'm not warning you I was trying to help you.  If you still have my messages you will see how I praised you then, the very first time Susan appeared on this forum I helped her and praised you to Susan and told her how I felt sorry you had been let down by Bamber, Susan will not remember this probably.  I do so admire your fight and what you have given, not a single person can take that away from you.  You have been on here as long as me and seen the crap we have been drip fed at times you cannot blame me for being suspicious when I see the same pattern over and over again, maybe I am thick and missing the reason for it?

I don't know Bill so I cannot comment who he is.  Jeremy has behaved badly at times not just to me but I other people I have introduced him to which I feel very guilt about but there is nothing normal about his life so I have made excuses for him but this does not making him a murderer

[susan]

I don't know Bill so I cannot comment who he is.  Jeremy has behaved badly at times not just to me but I other people I have introduced him to which I feel very guilt about but there is nothing normal about his life so I have made excuses for him but this does not making him a murderer

Jackie I am sure serving a life sentence for a crime you did not commit and being let down so badly by people you thought would only try to help you is bound to effect the way you behave especially to strangers who are trying to help you I guess he suspects everyone is trying to do him harm it is quite understandable and you are right to make excuses for him Jackie that is a wonderful thing to do. I admire you for fighting to try and get him released he needs more like you on his side and I am sad to say in some respects his CT do him more harm than good.

[Bill Robertson]

Bloody hell he's gone again, trust me and my big mouth, I think I was asking too much of him sorry everyone, I've waited up all night to catch him

I apologise for having to leave earlier today and any frustration this caused you. My wife is disabled and needed my assistance.

I'm not really suitable for all the expectations of responding to forum stuff all day long, so I will not be posting any further. Best wishes for all your deliberations, and never forget - JB is innocent!

[guest7363]

I apologise for having to leave earlier today and any frustration this caused you. My wife is disabled and needed my assistance.

I'm not really suitable for all the expectations of responding to forum stuff all day long, so I will not be posting any further. Best wishes for all your deliberations, and never forget - JB is innocent!

Thanks and best wishes Bill

[susan]

I apologise for having to leave earlier today and any frustration this caused you. My wife is disabled and needed my assistance.

I'm not really suitable for all the expectations of responding to forum stuff all day long, so I will not be posting any further. Best wishes for all your deliberations, and never forget - JB is innocent!

Hi Bill I think it is a great shame you are not going to post on the forum but I can understand how difficult it is for you especially when some seem to think you are an impostor I believe JB is innocent too

[Bill Robertson]

I believe JB is innocent too

I remain confident that JB will be released before the end of this year, but can't reveal why!

[susan]

Roch if he is real I will say sorry, surely you cannot blame me for having doubts.  I have studied over the last two days his writing and other people's writing and I will leave it at that.  I don't want to put other posters off, there is nothing I would like more Than for it to be a MOJ, that's why I came here in the first place, there was only Mike posting at the time, not another poster, I joined and was intrigued with what  Mike was saying, I never posted and I have told you this before two people changed my view and my look on the case Hartley being one and Kaldin the other. I have never pm Hartley or Kaldin to discuss anything in the seven years I've been here.  I know I get up people's back and I know I'm close to my termination maybe I have come to the end of the road, but I'm always drawn back because I want some meat on the bone and not fed crap.  I want to be able to say to the psychiatrist you got that one wrong (although I won't see her again but that's another story)

Hi Justice
I am sure even psychiatrists have different opinions regarding a persons personality and I must add even if a person is classed as evil that does not mean they are capable of murdering their entire family two of which were wee boys. My take on the case has always been anyone who could blast those two boys with so many bullets whilst they slept must have mental health issues and as far as I know JB has never portrayed such.

[susan]

I remain confident that JB will be released before the end of this year, but can't reveal why!

Bill I really understand and respect you for not revealing any sensitive information to this forum.  Please stay I wanted to talk with you about Taff Jones.  We on the forum who believe JB is innocent are delighted you are with us and cherish anything you can share with us

[Bill Robertson]

Bill I really understand and respect you for not revealing any sensitive information to this forum.  Please stay I wanted to talk with you about Taff Jones.  We on the forum who believe JB is innocent are delighted you are with us and cherish anything you can share with us

I don't know much about Taff, I only met him once, but feel free to ask questions, I know some stuff about him.

[susan]

I don't know much about Taff, I only met him once, but feel free to ask questions, I know some stuff about him.

Bill I was told from a good source that Taff remained adamant that Jeremy was innocent upto the day he sadly died  before his time do you believe this to be true Why was he taken off the case have you any idea was it because of his stance on the case.  I understand if you are not able to answer.

[lookout]

I remain confident that JB will be released before the end of this year, but can't reveal why!

Hello Bill,I've always believed him innocent as you know and I'll continue supporting to the bitter end.
I don't need all this investigation rubbish to know,either, as it was all done to justify the crummy work done by EP,which should never have happened in the first place. What a waste !!   

[guest7363]

I don't know Susan, maybe if I pass you her details you can chat with her and tell her how much she is wrong about Jeremy and Jeremy has never shown any mental issues, I'm a bit fed up with it all to tell you the truth, you have known about this some while and never suggested this to me before, but now you have changed stance you have got your doubts about, not just a psychiatrist but one who was trusted to work with other high profile murders, not your run of the mill high street quack, I'm sorry if it comes across hard, I don't want to but I'm a bit pissed of with it at the moment.