Kitchen telephone

[Bill Robertson]

Can you post it? Does he mean the state of the kitchen  when he says the state of it? Or the state of the phone? Your wording is not clear.

It is not my wording, it is verbatim the wording on a typewritten report, which has no other identifying remarks. The only reason I posted the comment was to ask if anyone had any views on what he was referring to. I wish there was further discussion in the document about the state of the phone, but DCI McDiarmid changed the subject as soon as Stan mentioned the "state", of the phone or the room; who knows what he meant?

OK, I'm gone now...got better things to spend my time on, on behalf of Jeremy.

[guest7363]

It is not my wording, it is verbatim the wording on a typewritten report, which has no other identifying remarks. The only reason I posted the comment was to ask if anyone had any views on what he was referring to. I wish there was further discussion in the document about the state of the phone, but DCI McDiarmid changed the subject as soon as Stan mentioned the "state", of the phone or the room; who knows what he meant?

OK, I'm gone now...got better things to spend my time on, on behalf of Jeremy.

Thanks for that Bill, glad to see you back, so like me and other posters you are questioning what Stan meant and unsure yourself?  I take my hat off to you Bill ex police and all that,  spending all your time fighting for Jeremy 

[Bill Robertson]

Thanks for that Bill, glad to see you back, so like me and other posters you are questioning what Stan meant and unsure yourself?  I take my hat off to you Bill ex police and all that,  spending all your time fighting for Jeremy 

Stan loved the sound of his own voice, and the sound of a whisky bottle being opened, so he had a bit of an inclination to shoot his mouth off at times.

Interesting, maybe, that when Stan retired a mob of COLP and Met officers attended his 'do'. He made a lot of friends among the enquiry teams. Enough said.

The 'main man' is innocent; can't give up on him.

[guest7363]

Stan loved the sound of his own voice, and the sound of a whisky bottle being opened, so he had a bit of an inclination to shoot his mouth off at times.

Interesting, maybe, that when Stan retired a mob of COLP and Met officers attended his 'do'. He made a lot of friends among the enquiry teams. Enough said.

The 'main man' is innocent; can't give up on him.

I take it you you knew Stan well Bill? It would make me sick if the police were behind framing Jeremy having helped them out before and been a cog in Essex police, you would probably know some who I know and depending on how long you have been left the force you would know of an instance where I thought I was going to be shot.  Scary times Bill

[guest7363]

Just a thought Bill, because you spend a lot of time on behalf of Jeremy, could you arrange with Jackie for some sort of dialogue going between yourself and Jackies police informant, two voices and there looks like there is more, would be better than one? Sorry I can't help you or get my friends to help because they are not of this opinion or of this knowledge.

[guest7363]

Bloody hell he's gone again, trust me and my big mouth, I think I was asking too much of him sorry everyone, I've waited up all night to catch him

[susan]

Stan loved the sound of his own voice, and the sound of a whisky bottle being opened, so he had a bit of an inclination to shoot his mouth off at times.

Interesting, maybe, that when Stan retired a mob of COLP and Met officers attended his 'do'. He made a lot of friends among the enquiry teams. Enough said.

The 'main man' is innocent; can't give up on him.

Hello Bill

nice to see you on here again and I am looking forward to posting with you as I believe you to be a very sincere honest man

[lookout]

Hello Bill

nice to see you on here again and I am looking forward to posting with you as I believe you to be a very sincere honest man

Hi Susan,I can assure you that he is as you describe and has been a loyal supporter for long enough and who works tirelessly on the case.

[maggie]

Hello Bill

nice to see you on here again and I am looking forward to posting with you as I believe you to be a very sincere honest man

Hello Susan
I do agree with you.  Really good to have Bill posting here. Do hope he is given a fair hearing by all.
I find his posts really interesting.

[guest2181]

Hello Susan
I do agree with you.  Really good to have Bill posting here. Do hope he is given a fair hearing by all.
I find his posts really interesting.

Looking back at his old posts, I think he always has been, even though others opinions on the case differ.

[maggie]

Looking back at his old posts, I think he always has been, even though others opinions on the case differ.

I find his posts stimulating and different, breath of fresh air on here.  Think we can sink into lethargy at times and need waking up and shaking up.

[lookout]

Bill is " in the know " Maggie. This is why his posts are interesting and refreshing,as the truth always is 

[Jane]

"I can't even (EVEN?) see (SEE?) anyone using (USING?) a phone in that (THAT?) kitchen.................."? COULD it be alluding to a suspicion that NO calls were made from the kitchen? However, if the emphasis is placed on "THAT........" it suggests that the kitchen is such a tip no one would want to use anything in it, "..........do you know what I mean, a subtle way of alluding to the chaos. ".................There's no way I'd (I'D?) want (WANT?) to use (USE?) that (THAT) phone"?

I've laid out all the ways in which that quote MAY have been said. It's certainly caused a bit of a hoo hah but I'm damned if I can see why there are so many twisted knickers regarding it, OR what offence Bill may have taken. Surely, on an open forum, an unwritten rule is that if one can't take the heat, it's better that one avoids the kitchen. I feel perfectly certain that IF Bill feels offended by anything said in respect of his quote, he's capable of dealing with it. I wonder if the sniping might have different roots and Bill is being used as a scapegoat? Just a thought. Belated Happy Bank Holiday, all.

[Roch]

I've laid out all the ways in which that quote MAY have been said. It's certainly caused a bit of a hoo hah but I'm damned if I can see why there are so many twisted knickers regarding it, OR what offence Bill may have taken. Surely, on an open forum, an unwritten rule is that if one can't take the heat, it's better that one avoids the kitchen. I feel perfectly certain that IF Bill feels offended by anything said in respect of his quote, he's capable of dealing with it. I wonder if the sniping might have different roots and Bill is being used as a scapegoat? Just a thought. Belated Happy Bank Holiday, all.

Maybe I did use it to let off steam.  I dont think he 'took offence' as such.  I think that the forum environment or arena (whatever term is appropriate) is not always very encompassing of non-regular posters.  Some people (including Bill) would prefer it to be a more 'serious' arena.  But it is what it is - and it has never been everyone's cup of tea.  It takes on a life of its' own and that is well established - so I cant really see it becoming a more 'serious' place - because that is probably not what many members would want.   

[Jane]

Maybe I did use it to let off steam.  I dont think he 'took offence' as such.  I think that the forum environment or arena (whatever term is appropriate) is not always very encompassing of non-regular posters.  Some people (including Bill) would prefer it to be a more 'serious' arena.  But it is what it is - and it has never been everyone's cup of tea.  It takes on a life of its' own and that is well established - so I cant really see it becoming a more 'serious' place - because that is probably not what many members would want.

You know, Roch. There's a saying -isn't there always!!? - we can't change the behaviour of others. All we can do is change the way in which we react to their behaviour. We're not responsible for fulfilling the needs of others. You so rightly say of the forum "It is what it is". It will never become more serious/intellectual because whilst there are those here who like nothing more than creating friction -which can certainly trigger some sort of dialogue!!!- there are also those here who can't cope with it and will say something inane/jokey to divert.