Last chance: Questions on the relatives fabricating the silencer:

[susan]

Really ? Hopefully Bill will reveal who this was.

At the moment he has just said "a man told me".

Adam wonder who this man is? I hate a mystery and I go all out to solve it.  Did you read my post on the AK-l enzyme same in humans as rabbits can be on a rifle that was used for shooting game etc .,

[Roch]

Really ? Hopefully Bill will reveal who this was.

At the moment he has just said "a man told me".

I think he was just being mildly facetious Adam. 

[lookout]

Really ? Hopefully Bill will reveal who this was.

At the moment he has just said "a man told me".

Don't underestimate Bill,Adam.

[Steve_uk]

From the clip here Jeremy says he can't envisage Sheila taking the sound moderator from the gun cupboard.  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-jeremy-bamber-files-exclusive-audio-191151

I'm sure sparks would fly if he finally admitted to the killings without ever using it.

[Adam]

From the clip here Jeremy says he can't envisage Sheila taking the sound moderator from the gun cupboard.  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-jeremy-bamber-files-exclusive-audio-191151

I'm sure sparks would fly if he finally admitted to the killings without ever using it.

The silencer was most probably on the rifle when Bamber arrived for supper. As noticed a few days earlier by AP.

If it wasn't,  Bamber had the opportinity to insert it while simultaneously fully loading the rifle. Under the guise that he had seen rabbits.

It's common sense to use an available silencer when attempting a silent 2am massacre.

[guest7363]

I have been studying this information for a while now, I think this is proof no one put any blood inside the silencer, it was inside and they didn't know it was in there.  The silencer had originally been sent for contact traces and then was sent back again for further tests regarding laser and super glue fumes testing, it was sent again for further tests after 10 to 12 days and that is when the blood inside was discovered.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=728.0;attach=3168

If the police or family had any involvement placing blood inside this would have come to light much earlier and it would not have been found by chance. 

The family have been victimised on here very unfairly and all they did was clear a gun cupboard out on authority of Mr Cock and come across this evidence.

[Adam]

Being able to put a silencer on the rifle was one of my 8 reasons given why Bamber chose this as the murder weapon. After two posters claimed Bamber would not have chosen this rifle.

This was described yesterday as a 'straw man' reason.

When I asked what weapon Bamber should have used instead, I was firstly asked to find proof that he had said Bamber used the wrong weapon. Once I quoted his post that Bamber used a 'totally inappropriate weapon', I was just told Bamber didn't commit the massacre.

[David1819]

I have been studying this information for a while now, I think this is proof no one put any blood inside the silencer, it was inside and they didn't know it was in there.  The silencer had originally been sent for contact traces and then was sent back again for further tests regarding laser and super glue fumes testing, it was sent again for further tests after 10 to 12 days and that is when the blood inside was discovered.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=728.0;attach=3168

If the police or family had any involvement placing blood inside this would have come to light much earlier and it would not have been found by chance. 

The family have been victimised on here very unfairly and all they did was clear a gun cupboard out on authority of Mr Cock and come across this evidence.

The blood was 'discovered' in mid September.

The contact wounds were created by the rifle with no silencer attached.

34. The evidence of Dr Fowler is set out in a more substantial report.  That report has been peer reviewed by Dr Dragovich, who is Chief Medical Examiner in Oakland County, Michigan and Dr Marcella Fierro, who is the retired Chief Medical Examiner to the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Both have qualifications as forensic pathologists.  In his careful report, Dr Fowler makes clear that he has reviewed the evidence, which was available in relation to the wounds.  He concluded that the abrasions found were consistent with those of a rifle without a silencer, that there were no distinctive marks on the body which showed that a silencer had been attached, and the residue was consistent with contact wounds. 

[guest2181]

The blood was 'discovered' in mid September.

The contact wounds were created by the rifle with no silencer attached.

34. The evidence of Dr Fowler is set out in a more substantial report.  That report has been peer reviewed by Dr Dragovich, who is Chief Medical Examiner in Oakland County, Michigan and Dr Marcella Fierro, who is the retired Chief Medical Examiner to the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Both have qualifications as forensic pathologists.  In his careful report, Dr Fowler makes clear that he has reviewed the evidence, which was available in relation to the wounds. He concluded that the abrasions found were consistent with those of a rifle without a silencer, that there were no distinctive marks on the body which showed that a silencer had been attached, and the residue was consistent with contact wounds.

A couple of things on this David.

For whatever reason these expert opinions weren't considered substantial enough to make the CCRC send the case back to appeal. Getting one expert to trump another on opinion alone doesn't seem to be accepted too often by the CCRC, although I must admit I don't know their views on it as their report dismissing the application has not been made public.

The second point, looking in isolation at the wording of the extract that you posted, it appears that the view is given that there is no evidence suggesting a silencer was fitted. Fine, but it doesn't offer a view that there is evidence that a silencer wasn't fitted. I think that is an important distinction.

[guest7363]

The blood was 'discovered' in mid September.

The contact wounds were created by the rifle with no silencer attached.

34. The evidence of Dr Fowler is set out in a more substantial report.  That report has been peer reviewed by Dr Dragovich, who is Chief Medical Examiner in Oakland County, Michigan and Dr Marcella Fierro, who is the retired Chief Medical Examiner to the Commonwealth of Virginia.  Both have qualifications as forensic pathologists.  In his careful report, Dr Fowler makes clear that he has reviewed the evidence, which was available in relation to the wounds. He concluded that the abrasions found were consistent with those of a rifle without a silencer, that there were no distinctive marks on the body which showed that a silencer had been attached, and the residue was consistent with contact wounds.

David you are missing my point, the relatives have been accused of putting blood inside the silencer, it was found by chance and not by planned finding, if you read the article this is a police spokesman talking without pre planned questions so it was an off the cuff answer to a reporter.

[lookout]

According to the 1991 COLP enquiry there were two silencers. One which had been found at the scene was heavily bloodstained and bore the DNA of a male akin/loci to Neville's,not Sheila's or Jeremy's.
This was found when officers had first entered after the tragedy.

[notsure]

I've sorted out your post for you 

thank you zoso only just noticed this sorry.