How Many People Knew The Twins

[Steve_uk]

Steve how do you come to the conclusion that Julie was a grafter? What has a single mother on a Chelmsford housing estate have any bearing on Julie? I am sure that a lot of decent single mothers have found themselves in a hole not by their making. Charity work is of no consequence.

Oh for goodness sake. A university degree, teaching practice, preparation and notes, jobs at Sloppy Joe's and Maldon Growers, decorating Bourtree Cottage. Had Julie wanted to be a single mother courtesy of Jeremy or the owner of a wine bar in a fashionable area of London I'm sure with all the scheming she's been accused of she could have arranged it.

[Caroline]

As I've already mentioned,Heather also went to see the twins,at Colin's behest.

No, she didn't because she couldn't tell them apart and Julie could - which is why she offered.

[lookout]

No, she didn't because she couldn't tell them apart and Julie could - which is why she offered.

It was AE who couldn't tell the twins apart------or so she said.
In Colin's book he says that Heather went to see the twins.

[susan]

What do you mean I wasn't ready to say that ? I must have mentioned about Heather going half a dozen times,but nobody said anything until you've just decided to chip in in your roundabout way of accusing me of something that NONE of us would have really known which was---- why didn't Colin go. We don't know the full reason so how can you anticipate that I knew,when I didn't ?

Hi lookout I thought Julie said she had some kind of powers and by studying Sheila in the mortuary would help her understand why Sheila had killed her family this could of course be a myth I just remember reading this.

[lookout]

Hi lookout I thought Julie said she had some kind of powers and by studying Sheila in the mortuary would help her understand why Sheila had killed her family this could of course be a myth I just remember reading this.

I'd read that too Susan and JM had allegedly asked Sheila what had happened. Well I would have thought that she already knew that months before it did with what JB told her,allegedly ?

[Jane]

What do you mean I wasn't ready to say that ? I must have mentioned about Heather going half a dozen times,but nobody said anything until you've just decided to chip in in your roundabout way of accusing me of something that NONE of us would have really known which was---- why didn't Colin go. We don't know the full reason so how can you anticipate that I knew,when I didn't ?

No Lookout, you INSISTED strongly that Colin's reluctance to identify the twins had NOTHING to do with my belief that he couldn't face the truth -and I believe I DO know- and is actually corroborated by his own words in the book you've read and can quote from but seem NOT to have read those words. This has NOTHING to do with Heather. It's simply about Colin not being willing to see the destruction inflicted on his children. I understand that.

[Steve_uk]

It was AE who couldn't tell the twins apart------or so she said.
In Colin's book he says that Heather went to see the twins.

I think that was at the funeral when the boys were in the coffin. I can't find any specific reference to Heather accompanying Ann Eaton and Julie to the morgue.

[lookout]

No Lookout, you INSISTED strongly that Colin's reluctance to identify the twins had NOTHING to do with my belief that he couldn't face the truth -and I believe I DO know- and is actually corroborated by his own words. This has NOTHING to do with Heather. It's simply about Colin not being willing to see the destruction inflicted on his children. I understand that.

Your visible anger is because you thought that only JM had attended,so why get in a sweat because Heather went too--------at the request of  Colin who'd wished to remember the twins as they were and NOT about any damage inflicted upon them,they're your words added for effect as usual.Sheesh !

[Jane]

Your visible anger is because you thought that only JM had attended,so why get in a sweat because Heather went too--------at the request of  Colin who'd wished to remember the twins as they were and NOT about any damage inflicted upon them,they're your words added for effect as usual.Sheesh !

Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to play psychologist, Lookout. It's true I didn't know that Heather went, but this isn't about Heather. It's about Julie's reasons for going. It seems to me, that whichever woman went first, there'd have been NO justifiable reason for the other to have gone. It's also interesting that the reason you're now giving for Heather's attendance is the VERY reason you shouted me down, ie, when I said Colin couldn't face -didn't want to know- the truth. I have no idea why you accept Colin wanting to remember the twins as they were, yet at the same time insisting that it had nothing to do with the injuries they'd sustained.

[JackiePreece]

No, she didn't because she couldn't tell them apart and Julie could - which is why she offered.

There would have been numerous people could have identified the twins

It is repulsive to think she offered to view the bodies

Any other normal person would have been full of guilt if they had known they could have potentially saved lives

And then at the 'young' age of 20 she hit the jackpot

Job done

[JackiePreece]

No Lookout, you INSISTED strongly that Colin's reluctance to identify the twins had NOTHING to do with my belief that he couldn't face the truth -and I believe I DO know- and is actually corroborated by his own words in the book you've read and can quote from but seem NOT to have read those words. This has NOTHING to do with Heather. It's simply about Colin not being willing to see the destruction inflicted on his children. I understand that.

I am not in the slightest bit interested in the reasons Colin did not view the bodies because at that time he would probably have felt guilty about the past with Sheila
It's irrelevant

It is inconceivable that Mugford would offer while still planning jollies with Jeremy

The women lied and lied and then lied again

[JackiePreece]

Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to play psychologist, Lookout. It's true I didn't know that Heather went, but this isn't about Heather. It's about Julie's reasons for going. It seems to me, that whichever woman went first, there'd have been NO justifiable reason for the other to have gone. It's also interesting that the reason you're now giving for Heather's attendance is the VERY reason you shouted me down, ie, when I said Colin couldn't face -didn't want to know- the truth. I have no idea why you accept Colin wanting to remember the twins as they were, yet at the same time insisting that it had nothing to do with the injuries they'd sustained.

And your the one accusing people of not knowing enough about the case
I think you owe lookout an apology

[Jane]

There would have been numerous people could have identified the twins

It is repulsive to think she offered to view the bodies

Any other normal person would have been full of guilt if they had known they could have potentially saved lives

And then at the 'young' age of 20 she hit the jackpot

Job done

Then where were all these willing people, Jackie? I don't understand what this is about. SOMEONE had to do it. If Heather did it first, surely it was job done. Julie wasn't needed. If Julie did it first, why was it necessary for Heather to go. Supposing they'd disagreed?

[Jane]

And your the one accusing people of not knowing enough about the case
I think you owe lookout an apology

I'm sure you do, Jackie. However, an apology from Lookout, to me, is long overdue.

[Caroline]

It was AE who couldn't tell the twins apart------or so she said.
In Colin's book he says that Heather went to see the twins.

No Lookout, although she offered, Heather didn't go, Jones didn't want her to go and dismissed her request. P38.