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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2017, 04:08:PM »
I don't think it's tasteless! AE would t do it as she didn't know them at all! Julie should never have been the ones to identify those little boys. She wasn't family and it should have been colin. Jane is right though this cannot be undone but it is worthy of debate imo.
Sometimes you're in shock and denial and it's no reflection of the feelings you have for any particular individual. There's nothing wrong with wanting to remember a person as they were, particularly if their bodies had been ridden with bullets, as was the case here. Allow Colin the discretion to decide.

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2017, 04:17:PM »
She didn't fight tooth and claw though did she! A fag was the only requirement. She said she was hoping to use telepathic powers to find out what had happened, yet she supposedly knew since 1984.

OK. You're suggesting that she offered to do it if someone gave her a fag? It was a somewhat esoteric way of hopefully changing a suspicion into a confirmation.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2017, 04:28:PM »
One thing guaranteed is that when Heather went,Colin would have been told the truth in return.

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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2017, 04:34:PM »
One thing guaranteed is that when Heather went,Colin would have been told the truth in return.

Lookout, the reason he didn't want to go is because he didn't want to KNOW the truth, OR see it laid out in front of him.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2017, 04:35:PM »
I'm rapidly tiring of this sad carousel, Notsure. The past can NOT be changed! It's irrelevant who SHOULD/SHOULDN'T have identified the twins. The relevant point is, THEY DIDN'T, and it fell to Julie. I've held no candle to her in the past, but for God's sake, the girl was 20!! Do you imagine she fought tooth and claw to be first in line to identify them, because unless I'm VERY much mistaken, THAT'S what appears to be suggested by several. Sorry. Rant over. As you were :-[ :-[

NOTHING Fell to Julie
She wanted to identify the bodies. It's a fact there were numerous people who could identify the body
In her words she was with the murderer when she chose to identifyi the bodies
Why do you keep going on about she was twenty
Old enough to smoke drink get married and have babies
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2017, 04:36:PM »
20 is not young
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2017, 04:38:PM »
NOTHING Fell to Julie
She wanted to identify the bodies. It's a fact there were numerous people who could identify the body
In her words she was with the murderer when she chose to identifyi the bodies
Why do you keep going on about she was twenty
Old enough to smoke drink get married and have babies
She could have been the scheming single mother left to rot on a Chelmsford housing estate and had she been so we would never have heard the last of it. Whatever mistakes Julie made she was a grafter, she volunteered because it was in her nature, as her extensive charity work in Canada has proved since.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2017, 04:41:PM »
Lookout, the reason he didn't want to go is because he didn't want to KNOW the truth, OR see it laid out in front of him.




How ridiculous. There are plenty of people who prefer not to go to those places however much they love and miss their families. It's got NOTHING whatsoever to do with truth or anything else.It's not everyones cup of tea visiting a mortuary and certainly not a given thing to do either.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2017, 04:47:PM »
NOTHING Fell to Julie
She wanted to identify the bodies. It's a fact there were numerous people who could identify the body
In her words she was with the murderer when she chose to identifyi the bodies
Why do you keep going on about she was twenty
Old enough to smoke drink get married and have babies

Jackie, having made SUCH an expansive and sweeping statement, perhaps you could furnish us with the names of the many Julie allegedly walked over in order to take on this onerous task. I think it's something we require evidence of. As for her being old enough to have babies, for most people it involves something more like pleasure than hard work to conceive them. Smoking and drinking are also considered pleasurable. Most 20 year olds have yet to experience full adult life and can't be expected to think like mature adults, other than on an intellectual level, repeating what they've learned in FE.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2017, 04:49:PM »



How ridiculous. There are plenty of people who prefer not to go to those places however much they love and miss their families. It's got NOTHING whatsoever to do with truth or anything else.It's not everyones cup of tea visiting a mortuary and certainly not a given thing to do either.

Hang on. Did he not say in his book that he wanted to remember them how they were? I don't see that Julie should be slagged off for doing something their father couldn't.

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2017, 04:58:PM »
Hang on. Did he not say in his book that he wanted to remember them how they were? I don't see that Julie should be slagged off for doing something their father couldn't.




Yes,he did say that.That's why he sent Heather !

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2017, 05:01:PM »
Something else Colin had said was that Sheila would rather kill than be parted from her children.

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2017, 05:16:PM »



Yes,he did say that.That's why he sent Heather !

 But you weren't ready to let on to that, were you? I guess you preferred to let others believe I was wrong. So now you must concur that he couldn't face the truth. I'm not Colin bashing, Lookout. I'm saying it how it was.
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2017, 05:29:PM »
She could have been the scheming single mother left to rot on a Chelmsford housing estate and had she been so we would never have heard the last of it. Whatever mistakes Julie made she was a grafter, she volunteered because it was in her nature, as her extensive charity work in Canada has proved since.
Steve how do you come to the conclusion that Julie was a grafter? What has a single mother on a Chelmsford housing estate have any bearing on Julie? I am sure that a lot of decent single mothers have found themselves in a hole not by their making. Charity work is of no consequence.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2017, 05:44:PM »
But you weren't ready to let on to that, were you? I guess you preferred to let others believe I was wrong. So now you must concur that he couldn't face the truth. I'm not Colin bashing, Lookout. I'm saying it how it was.





What do you mean I wasn't ready to say that ? I must have mentioned about Heather going half a dozen times,but nobody said anything until you've just decided to chip in in your roundabout way of accusing me of something that NONE of us would have really known which was---- why didn't Colin go. We don't know the full reason so how can you anticipate that I knew,when I didn't ?