Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!

[mike tesko]

Bullet cases DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, were never found in the main bedroom, four other exhibits originally had these exhibit references which PI 'Bob' Miller vacated so that these extra four bullet cases could be introduced...

There were originally only 8 bullet cases found in the main bedroom, an additional one (9th) was found half way down the main stairs!

This tells us that Sheila was only shot once in the main bedroom, and that June Bamber was shot 7 times there! Neville Bamber was shot at as he dashed downstairs to the kitchen phone where he made a swift call to Jeremy, followed by an equally as urgent a call he made to police (3.26am)!

[mike tesko]

Bullet cases DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, were never found in the main bedroom, four other exhibits originally had these exhibit references which PI 'Bob' Miller vacated so that these extra four bullet cases could be introduced...

'Bob' Miller sought to introduce the four bullet cases so that prosecution could rely upon the false premises that June was shot 7 times, Sheila twice and Neville Bamber 4 times before he fled downstairs! All designed with the idea in mind to fool people into accepting that Sheila had been shot twice in the main bedroom when she had only been shot once there! Also to fool the jury into falsely believing that Neville Bamber had been shot four times, including once in the mouth and jaw thereby making it impossible for him to have spoken on the telephone to anyone least of all to Jeremy or to the police!!!

[guest2181]

Thanks for that Hartley

Also I noticed in Fletchers evidence that he does indeed indicate that 6 of the shots to Neville were from "within a few inches", as you quite rightly stated.

[guest2181]

Also I noticed in Fletchers evidence that he does indeed indicate that 6 of the shots to Neville were from "within a few inches", as you quite rightly stated.

Another also. 

The distance which cartridges are ejected is according to Fletcher, about 4 feet. However he does go on to say that if the cartridges are ejected on to a hard floor then they could bounce/roll a little further, up to 6 feet away.

[guest7363]

Also I noticed in Fletchers evidence that he does indeed indicate that 6 of the shots to Neville were from "within a few inches", as you quite rightly stated.

Yes I read that and the other two were about 2 feet away? 

[guest2181]

Yes I read that and the other two were about 2 feet away?

He says the other 2 were from "more than two feet away".

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4019.0.html

[guest7363]

He says the other 2 were from "more than two feet away".

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4019.0.html

Thats right just checked it Hartley thanks.

[guest7363]

Another also. 

The distance which cartridges are ejected is according to Fletcher, about 4 feet. However he does go on to say that if the cartridges are ejected on to a hard floor then they could bounce/roll a little further, up to 6 feet away.

Would carpet be classed as hard floor do you think?  Or would carpet soften any bounce/roll etc?

[guest2181]

Would carpet be classed as hard floor do you think?  Or would carpet soften any bounce/roll etc?

I think a hard floor would be tiles or timber flooring, maybe lino. I wouldn't say carpet would be considered a "hard" floor. 

[guest7363]

I think a hard floor would be tiles or timber flooring, maybe lino. I wouldn't say carpet would be considered a "hard" floor. 

Yes that's my reasoning as well

[guest2181]

Yes that's my reasoning as well

A wall is hard, but if a shell case only ejects four feet in distance, I can't envisage it travelling a few feet, then hitting a wall and  suddenly accelerating a further six feet away (becoming ethereal and passing through a door in the process). 

[mike tesko]

'Bob' Miller sought to introduce the four bullet cases so that prosecution could rely upon the false premises that June was shot 7 times, Sheila twice and Neville Bamber 4 times before he fled downstairs! All designed with the idea in mind to fool people into accepting that Sheila had been shot twice in the main bedroom when she had only been shot once there! Also to fool the jury into falsely believing that Neville Bamber had been shot four times, including once in the mouth and jaw thereby making it impossible for him to have spoken on the telephone to anyone least of all to Jeremy or to the police!!!

https://youtu.be/RZgBhyU4IvQ

[mike tesko]

There is no doubt that Sheila shot and killed the other four victims, at least she definitely played some role in their deaths!

[Steve_uk]

There is no doubt that Sheila shot and killed the other four victims, at least she definitely played some role in their deaths!

I would like to compare the handwriting of "I didn't mean to be horrible to Jeremy" to the alleged suicide note.

[mike tesko]

(9) - that the existence of 'an officers report' regarding 'the shooting incident in the kitchen' is reference to the initial shooting of Sheila Caffell during the entry of armed police into the kitchen, and the fact that cops mistakenly thought she had been killed downstairs in the kitchen, as a result of that 'first shot'...

This 'officers Report' was written because of the circumstances Sheila Caffell got shot in the kitchen as touched upon by message log entries, 7.35am, 7.37am and 7.38am ' the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female found on entry to kitchen', one dead male, one dead female', etc, etc, etc...