History of scenarios on how Sheila committed the massacre.

[Adam]

It seems that David has come up with more 'forensic evidence breakthroughs'.

Nevill was not shot in the bedroom. But four times on the stairs.

Sheila hitting her target  four times out of four, from several yards away. Twice in the head. A bit like Angelina Jolie would in Tomb Raider.

This refutes the evidence that Nevill reveived 4 shots in the bedroom. Two from close range. But the diagrams look nice.

[Caroline]

Imagery is coming along well.  I cannot speak for your trajectory scenarios  - but you should be commended for displaying the 100% CORRECT KILLER in these reproductions. 

Well done David.

Mike on the IA board who knows more about this stuff, showed that a shot on the stairs wasn't possible. I find this stuff pointless, just like scenarios, you can have a million of them and still not know for sure what actually happened.

[Adam]

Mike on the IA board who knows more about this stuff, showed that a shot on the stairs wasn't possible. I find this stuff pointless, just like scenarios, you can have a million of them and still not know for sure what actually happened.

It's not pointless at all & has come up with many interesting conclusions. How Bamber or Sheila committed the massacre is a huge discussion point.

So far it has been easy to provide a scenario to match Bamber as the killer. Myself, the police & CAL have done this. There are small variations between us,  but they all match the crime scene, are very straight forward & easy to compile.  The conclusion is this is how Bamber committed the massacre.

With Sheila, several supporters & former supporters refuse/d to say how Sheila committed the massacre. The few submitted scenario's which match the crime scene have all been very different & have had huge holes in them. David has been spending 4 months trying to work out his 5th scenario & is now including diagrams to give it more gravitas. The conclusion is Sheila didn't commit the massacre.

Another interesting conclusion is all supporters who have supplied a detailed scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre, say Nevill did not phone EP. The remaining supporters who are still refusing to submit a scenario still say Nevill called EP.

[Caroline]

It's not pointless at all & has come up with many interesting conclusions. How Bamber or Sheila committed the massacre is a huge discussion point.

Nothing that can be proven either way.

[Adam]

Nothing that can be proven either way.

Did you have an idea of how Sheila committed the massacre when you were a supporter ?

[Roch]

Mike on the IA board who knows more about this stuff, showed that a shot on the stairs wasn't possible. I find this stuff pointless, just like scenarios, you can have a million of them and still not know for sure what actually happened.

Unfortunately Adam is obsessed with scenarios... cant see them dropping from threads any time soon

[Adam]

Unfortunately Adam is obsessed with scenarios... cant see them dropping from threads any time soon

Another interesting fact is none of the posters who changed from innocent to guilty provided a scenario when supporting Bamber.

[Adam]

Unfortunately Adam is obsessed with scenarios... cant see them dropping from threads any time soon

Actually, reply 47 is wrong. As you & Mike both provided a scenario but still believe Nevill phoned EP.

Mike's scenario was a bit short. Just saying 'by shooting them'.

You're scenario was also a bit short. Just saying 'Sheila shot them' and you 'can't explain the phone calls'.

[Roch]

You're scenario was also a bit short. Just saying 'Sheila shot them' and you 'can't explain the phone calls'.

A scenario of what actually happened in the farmhouse mightn't fit with the phone calls - if the truth about phone calls has not been told by police.  That was my point recently.  You cannot put back together two halves that were never attached in the first place.

[Adam]

A scenario of what actually happened in the farmhouse mightn't fit with the phone calls - if the truth about phone calls has not been told by police.  That was my point recently.  You cannot put back together two halves that were never attached in the first place.

I don't understand this. Bamber is the one giving the phone call times. At 3.10am Nevill calls Bamber. At 3:26am Nevill calls the police.

So you just have to say how Sheila did it in 22 minutes & include these two phone calls. You know the bullet allocation & body locations. There were two reloads & one fight. What is the difficulty ?

[guest7363]

*Robinson?

Ha Ha x It's  ok Jane, I was looking at what prezzie to buy my wife and got confused 

[buddy]

Thank you Buddy. As with other scenarios we won't include the Haloperidol side effects as a factor.

It's good that you agree with all the other posters that have submitted scenarios, that Nevill did not call the police.

We will have to assume there was a fostering conversation. Although the direct & indirect evidence from 5 people says there was not.

PB's WS said June told her Sheila was going to bed. At 10pm. If Sheila never slept in her bed, what was she doing between 10pm - 3am ?

I agree Nevill & June would not hear the rifle. If behind a wall and closed door in another room.

Nevill was shot 4 times upstairs and would have been unable to speak. As you said, he did not know the twins were already dead. So would have tried to protect himself, June & the twins upstairs. Rather than spend several minutes waiting for Bamber to perhaps answer the phone.

If Sheila had shot Nevill & June upstairs. She would not have any bullets left when she got downstairs.

Bamber agrees the burn marks were caused by a rifle end. Rather than Nevill falling against the aga.

Adam if the burn marks were caused by the rifle end then no silencer was fitted.

[Jane]

Ha Ha x It's  ok Jane, I was looking at what prezzie to buy my wife and got confused 

Lucky lady!!!

[buddy]

It seems that David has come up with more 'forensic evidence breakthroughs'.

Nevill was not shot in the bedroom. But four times on the stairs.

Sheila hitting her target  four times out of four, from several yards away. Twice in the head. A bit like Angelina Jolie would in Tomb Raider.

This refutes the evidence that Nevill reveived 4 shots in the bedroom. Two from close range. But the diagrams look nice.

There is no evidence that Nevill was shot 4 times on the stairs Adam.

[buddy]

I also recall on here that Colin said "she has finally done it" suggesting that Sheila had mentioned harming the twins. He was very supportive of Jeremy in the early days.