Effects of Haloperidol

[Caroline]

Sheila couldn't cope on her own,let alone look after twins. Her neighbours were her only salvation when Sheila had screaming fits through the night. What sort of a life was that for her with no-one to turn to?

You've changed the subject - according to you she liked to live there because she liked going out. Now you have her unable to cope screaming through the night. Neither one is accurate - but keep exaggerating.

[lookout]

You've changed the subject - according to you she liked to live there because she liked going out. Now you have her unable to cope screaming through the night. Neither one is accurate - but keep exaggerating.

I haven't changed the subject at all ( don't you ever stop picking ?
Sheila hadn't bargained to fall ill did she ? Her idea had been to live there as a FAMILY,but Colin put paid to that by finding someone else,then taking away the children to live most of the time with him and the girlfriend,leaving Sheila,her dreams shattered and suffering night terrors.Fortunately she had a good neighbour who'd called when hearing the screams. That neighbour's name is on the forum somewhere,also the fact that Sheila used to scream,so it's no exaggerating on my part-------more loss of memory on yours !!

[Caroline]

I haven't changed the subject at all ( don't you ever stop picking ?
Sheila hadn't bargained to fall ill did she ? Her idea had been to live there as a FAMILY,but Colin put paid to that by finding someone else,then taking away the children to live most of the time with him and the girlfriend,leaving Sheila,her dreams shattered and suffering night terrors.Fortunately she had a good neighbour who'd called when hearing the screams. That neighbour's name is on the forum somewhere,also the fact that Sheila used to scream,so it's no exaggerating on my part-------more loss of memory on yours !!

Yes you are (don't you ever stop whining?). No you're once again exaggerating - Sheila was taking anti-psychotic meds before the murders. You're taking something that happened on occasion and trying to suggest it was frequent.

[lookout]

Yes you are (don't you ever stop whining?). No you're once again exaggerating - Sheila was taking anti-psychotic meds before the murders. You're taking something that happened on occasion and trying to suggest it was frequent

Now it's you who's gone haywire ! I hadn't mentioned meds.

You're clearly making something out of nothing---------

I happened to have mentioned that she preferred living where she was rather than near her parents

[Caroline]

Now it's you who's gone haywire ! I hadn't mentioned meds.

You're clearly making something out of nothing---------

I happened to have mentioned that she preferred living where she was rather than near her parents

There were no recent report of her screaming, which is what you were implying. You were also suggesting she liked living in London for the night life - for which there is no evidence.

[Jane]

I haven't changed the subject at all ( don't you ever stop picking ?
Sheila hadn't bargained to fall ill did she ? Her idea had been to live there as a FAMILY,but Colin put paid to that by finding someone else,then taking away the children to live most of the time with him and the girlfriend,leaving Sheila,her dreams shattered and suffering night terrors.Fortunately she had a good neighbour who'd called when hearing the screams. That neighbour's name is on the forum somewhere,also the fact that Sheila used to scream,so it's no exaggerating on my part-------more loss of memory on yours !!

Just as well you've got me on ignore because I'm about to tell you that you exaggerate beyond reason. You've called me a LIAR for less. You have no idea what was the dynamic between Sheila and Colin -like Diana, as you've suggested she was, she was probably far too insecure for ANY man to make her happy- and I very much doubt that he was the cause of her night terrors as you insinuate. NOR do I believe her neighbour to have been disturbed nightly by "the fact that Sheila used to scream".

[lookout]

There were no recent report of her screaming, which is what you were implying. You were also suggesting she liked living in London for the night life - for which there is no evidence.

Your friend Jane wrote a post about her neighbour hearing screams !!

Why was it that Sheila preferred London,then ?

[Jane]

Your friend Jane wrote a post about her neighbour hearing screams !!

Why was it that Sheila preferred London,then ?

If it wasn't recent to the massacre, presumably it was prior to her first breakdown in 1983. Why did Sheila prefer London? Too stupid a question to be worthy of an answer, isn't it?

[Caroline]

Your friend Jane wrote a post about her neighbour hearing screams !!

Why was it that Sheila preferred London,then ?

Because she preferred it - I used to live in Newcastle but didn't go out every night. I liked the city life, shopping etc. Sheila had a lot on her plate and didn't have the money to go out every night or even on regular occasions. There is no evidence for what you are claiming.

[lookout]

It has,and is known,that those who are taking Haloperidol do relapse during its therapy. Many have expressed doubt as to its ability of an anti-psychotic other than the approved tolerability. The argument for conventional agents such as Risperidone increases.
Risperidone and Clozapine are both more effective in treating " negative " schizophrenia symptoms such as withdrawal from social interactions and blunted emotional expression.
For " positive " symptoms of delusions and hallucinations,Risperidone was found to be superior in a combined analysis of large controlled trials.
Risperidone was found to reduce the numbers of relapses which occurred during schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorders compared with Haloperidol, as well as being tolerant.

The full clinical benefits of treatment with antipsychotic drugs should be judged over an extended period.

[Jane]

It has,and is known,that those who are taking Haloperidol do relapse during its therapy. Many have expressed doubt as to its ability of an anti-psychotic other than the approved tolerability. The argument for conventional agents such as Risperidone increases.
Risperidone and Clozapine are both more effective in treating " negative " schizophrenia symptoms such as withdrawal from social interactions and blunted emotional expression.
For " positive " symptoms of delusions and hallucinations,Risperidone was found to be superior in a combined analysis of large controlled trials.
Risperidone was found to reduce the numbers of relapses which occurred during schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorders compared with Haloperidol, as well as being tolerant.

Then trials must be run on those being prescribed these drugs in 1985.

The full clinical benefits of treatment with antipsychotic drugs should be judged over an extended period.

[Caroline]

It has,and is known,that those who are taking Haloperidol do relapse during its therapy. Many have expressed doubt as to its ability of an anti-psychotic other than the approved tolerability. The argument for conventional agents such as Risperidone increases.
Risperidone and Clozapine are both more effective in treating " negative " schizophrenia symptoms such as withdrawal from social interactions and blunted emotional expression.
For " positive " symptoms of delusions and hallucinations,Risperidone was found to be superior in a combined analysis of large controlled trials.
Risperidone was found to reduce the numbers of relapses which occurred during schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorders compared with Haloperidol, as well as being tolerant.

The full clinical benefits of treatment with antipsychotic drugs should be judged over an extended period.

Sheila had only started taking it, people seem to be trying to do their level best to find excuses for why Sheila would have a psychotic attack even though she was taking medication. It won't work.

[lookout]

Sheila had only started taking it, people seem to be trying to do their level best to find excuses for why Sheila would have a psychotic attack even though she was taking medication. It won't work.

All the more reason for the lack of assessment of the drug--------it wasn't working,was it,even at its early stages of having been administered ? It was purely and simply used as a " cosh " !!

[Jane]

All the more reason for the lack of assessment of the drug--------it wasn't working,was it,even at its early stages of having been administered ? It was purely and simply used as a " cosh " !!

So then, trials must be run to see just how many others suffered the same effect, from Haloperidol, resulting in murder/suicide, in 1985. Seemples, yes?

[Caroline]

All the more reason for the lack of assessment of the drug--------it wasn't working,was it,even at its early stages of having been administered ? It was purely and simply used as a " cosh " !!

That's right, which is why it was reduced - the reduction was still a high dose.