Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?

[Caroline]

6 out of 10 editions told how NB was found in the hall.

He wasn't

[lookout]

There are conflicting reports. Each person being interviewed is telling their own story and speaking of their own experience. Others are telling what they've been told by others. ALL are telling different stories about the same incident. WHF was a microcosm of what's happening right now.

Which is all the more reason that EP SHOULD have known what was happening at WHF.

Why do the numbskulls have to go around with their phones taking pics of what's happening ? Sick !

[Jane]

Which is all the more reason that EP SHOULD have known what was happening at WHF.

Why do the numbskulls have to go around with their phones taking pics of what's happening ? Sick !

You're talking about something that happened -at night- 30+ years ago, that NONE of those present had previously experienced in practice. This could be the only case you're interested in but it seems to me that ALL of you who seek to rectify what you believe are MoJ's say exactly the same thing about the initial handling of the case.
It's interesting that the policeman who is reporting said he will say what he knows but won't speculate. I imagine there was a lot of speculation going on a WHF.

[lookout]

You're talking about something that happened -at night- 30+ years ago, that NONE of those present had previously experienced in practice. This could be the only case you're interested in but it seems to me that ALL of you who seek to rectify what you believe are MoJ's say exactly the same thing about the initial handling of the case.
It's interesting that the policeman who is reporting said he will say what he knows but won't speculate. I imagine there was a lot of speculation going on a WHF.

And there's been nothing but speculation since the tragedy at WHF.

[Caroline]

Which is all the more reason that EP SHOULD have known what was happening at WHF.

Why do the numbskulls have to go around with their phones taking pics of what's happening ? Sick !

What numbskulls?

[Adam]

Posters are not answering the question.

Apart from Lookout saying Nevill may have been on his way to the front door. Weirdly because some newspapers apparently & incorrectly said Nevill was found in the hall.

If Nevill & June together could not handle Sheila, what is the point in phoning Bamber & the police if the police & Bamber can't get inside ?

[lookout]

What numbskulls?

Those who were seen on the news an hour ago.

[Adam]

Nevill may have believed he would be able to get to the front door when Bamber or the police rang the bell. This is an optimistic & risky attitude.

Sheila had 'gone crazy and had got the gun'. Nevill alone or with June could not control her resulting in Nevill making phone calls.  WHF was a big house & a door bell ringing may just provoke Sheila even more.

If Nevill or June were alive but involved in a struggle or too injured to get to the door, vital minutes or hours would be lost with people outside WHF rather than inside.

I'm sorry but the suggestion that some newspapers apparently wrongly reported Nevill was found in the hall does not suggest he was about to open the front door.

[orb9999]

So how do we know that he didnt unlock the door then Sheila could have locked it again after Nevill was out of the way.

[Jane]

So how do we know that he didnt unlock the door then Sheila could have locked it again after Nevill was out of the way.

And then gone upstairs to shoot herself?

[lookout]

And then gone upstairs to shoot herself?

We don't know,but it wouldn't surprise me. ( if she'd felt the same as Princess Diana did in her stuffy household )

[Jane]

We don't know,but it wouldn't surprise me. ( if she'd felt the same as Princess Diana did in her stuffy household )

But Lookout, it wasn't Sheila's stuffy home and she'd only got another 48 hours there.

[lookout]

But Lookout, it wasn't Sheila's stuffy home and she'd only got another 48 hours there.

I meant that she grew up in. A cold,loveless climate.

[Steve_uk]

The front door was locked from inside. Bamber & the police didn't have a front door key anyway. So not much point in Nevill ringing both if neither can enter.

Nevill had time to ring Bamber & according to many, the police. So why not leave the front door ajar ?

Nevill obviously also had time to leave the front door ajar & is likely to do this before making any phone calls. 

The worst that could happen is Sheila would run out of the front door bare footed in her nightie. Either holding or not holding a rifle, before or after anyone arrived.

Nevill was expecting Bamber to 'come quickly' and help him restrain Sheila. Not much chance of that if Nevill's upstairs injured & Bamber is standing on the doorstep ringing the door bell. 

Nevill was also expecting the police to arrive. An open door would at least give Bews & Jones the option of entering & assisting Nevill. Everyone staying outside for hours was not why Nevill made 3am phone calls.

I suppose the Defence would have to argue the time between him telephoning his son and making his way to the door he was intercepted by his daughter.

[gringo]

The front door was locked from inside. Bamber & the police didn't have a front door key anyway. So not much point in Nevill ringing both if neither can enter.

Nevill had time to ring Bamber & according to many, the police. So why not leave the front door ajar ?

Nevill obviously also had time to leave the front door ajar & is likely to do this before making any phone calls.

The worst that could happen is Sheila would run out of the front door bare footed in her nightie. Either holding or not holding a rifle, before or after anyone arrived.

Nevill was expecting Bamber to 'come quickly' and help him restrain Sheila. Not much chance of that if Nevill's upstairs injured & Bamber is standing on the doorstep ringing the door bell. 

Nevill was also expecting the police to arrive. An open door would at least give Bews & Jones the option of entering & assisting Nevill. Everyone staying outside for hours was not why Nevill made 3am phone calls.

   How does he "obviously" have time for all of this?