Author Topic: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?  (Read 12345 times)

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Offline Adam

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The front door was locked from inside. Bamber & the police didn't have a front door key anyway. So not much point in Nevill ringing both if neither can enter.

Nevill had time to ring Bamber & according to many, the police. So why not leave the front door ajar ?

Nevill obviously also had time to leave the front door ajar & is likely to do this before making any phone calls. 

The worst that could happen is Sheila would run out of the front door bare footed in her nightie. Either holding or not holding a rifle, before or after anyone arrived.

Nevill was expecting Bamber to 'come quickly' and help him restrain Sheila. Not much chance of that if Nevill's upstairs injured & Bamber is standing on the doorstep ringing the door bell. 

Nevill was also expecting the police to arrive. An open door would at least give Bews & Jones the option of entering & assisting Nevill. Everyone staying outside for hours was not why Nevill made 3am phone calls.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 02:47:PM by Adam »
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How do you know that NB wasn't trying to make his way into the hall towards the front door,because according to MOST of the newspapers that day,NB had been found in the hall ??
In which case when police made their calculations regarding the body of a female seen through the window,NB  ( a male ) wouldn't have been seen if he'd been in the hall.

It'll never be clear nor truthful how or where the three adult bodies had been found because of the amount of anomalies there are in the case as a whole. There's only speculation.

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How do you know that NB wasn't trying to make his way into the hall towards the front door,because according to MOST of the newspapers that day,NB had been found in the hall ??
In which case when police made their calculations regarding the body of a female seen through the window,NB  ( a male ) wouldn't have been seen if he'd been in the hall.

It'll never be clear nor truthful how or where the three adult bodies had been found because of the amount of anomalies there are in the case as a whole. There's only speculation.

But he wasn't found in the hall!
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How do you know that NB wasn't trying to make his way into the hall towards the front door,because according to MOST of the newspapers that day,NB had been found in the hall ??
In which case when police made their calculations regarding the body of a female seen through the window,NB  ( a male ) wouldn't have been seen if he'd been in the hall.

It'll never be clear nor truthful how or where the three adult bodies had been found because of the amount of anomalies there are in the case as a whole. There's only speculation.

So Nevill was about to open the door. So you agree it's very unusual the front door was bolted.

Nevill was found in the kitchen.

He had 16 minutes between 2 phone calls to leave the front door ajar. As well as time prior to deciding to ring Bamber & the police. However the front door was bolted from inside.

So why bother phoning people who can't get inside ? 

« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 02:58:PM by Adam »
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Why not start from the very beginning and see for yourself how this crime had been reported and how changes came to be made as the case took its course ?

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Why not start from the very beginning and see for yourself how this crime had been reported and how changes came to be made as the case took its course ?

When it first happened, newspapers w(much like here) would have gone into feeding frenzy, taking any information from anyone they thought might be in the know. That's why A LOT of incorrect information was printed. Nevil wasn't found in the hall.
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When it first happened, newspapers w(much like here) would have gone into feeding frenzy, taking any information from anyone they thought might be in the know. That's why A LOT of incorrect information was printed. Nevil wasn't found in the hall.





6 out of 10 editions told how NB was found in the hall.

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When it first happened, newspapers w(much like here) would have gone into feeding frenzy, taking any information from anyone they thought might be in the know. That's why A LOT of incorrect information was printed. Nevil wasn't found in the hall.

Caroline, you have NO idea! Not only did it cover every national, it covered ALL the locals -about 9 in total at that time- and they all said slightly different things. OBVIOUSLY it wasn't all true.

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6 out of 10 editions told how NB was found in the hall.

SO? It doesn't mean he was.

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SO? It doesn't mean he was.





Doesn't mean he wasn't either being as so many reports had been made.

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Re: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 03:55:PM »




Doesn't mean he wasn't either being as so many reports had been made.

Well, in this case there is corroborative evidence -or should I say, LACK of- in the hall. You've seen the picture of Nevill, head in bucket, puddles of blood IN THE KITCHEN. How, injured like that would he have got to the hall without leaving any trace of his presence?

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Re: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2017, 04:10:PM »
WHY would the report have been made in the first place ? There's a big difference in how we're supposed to perceive how he was allegedly found,head near scuttle and not IN it,to him being found in the hall.
There's a heck of a difference between how the case first began and how it's seen today.

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Re: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2017, 04:18:PM »
WHY would the report have been made in the first place ? There's a big difference in how we're supposed to perceive how he was allegedly found,head near scuttle and not IN it,to him being found in the hall.
There's a heck of a difference between how the case first began and how it's seen today.

I really can't tell you, Lookout, other than to tell you what I've already said MANY times. Human beings are fallible. You only need to look at the television and see whats happening in Westminster RIGHT NOW to hear that there are always conflicting reports wherever there's a major incident.

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Re: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2017, 04:26:PM »
I really can't tell you, Lookout, other than to tell you what I've already said MANY times. Human beings are fallible. You only need to look at the television and see whats happening in Westminster RIGHT NOW to hear that there are always conflicting reports wherever there's a major incident.





I'm watching that horrendous news now. Sadly,we've come to expect that attacks such as this are a sickening fact of our lives now and my thoughts go out to those involved.
One attack being as cowardly as another towards the innocent public,though I doubt that there's room for conflicting reports as everyone has come to know who the assailants are.

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Re: Why didn't Nevill leave WHF's front door ajar for Bamber & co ?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2017, 04:30:PM »




I'm watching that horrendous news now. Sadly,we've come to expect that attacks such as this are a sickening fact of our lives now and my thoughts go out to those involved.
One attack being as cowardly as another towards the innocent public,though I doubt that there's room for conflicting reports as everyone has come to know who the assailants are.

There are conflicting reports. Each person being interviewed is telling their own story and speaking of their own experience. Others are telling what they've been told by others. ALL are telling different stories about the same incident. WHF was a microcosm of what's happening right now.