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[Caroline]

To be fair though - you have relied upon it yourself (if I am not mistaken).  He confirmed about the panic alarm.  He may have genuinely helped to confirm other aspects for you as well (I'm guessing).

Facts come from all people and all walks of life, imho.

He told me there was no panic button but it wasn't until Vidvic had it confirmed by AE that it was accepted.

Maybe you didn't understand what I meant, I think a certain level of caution should be used when quoting Jeremy. It's in HIS best interest to have people believe there was a figure at the window so if guilty, he'll play on that. The panic alarm is benign - but don't forget how long he avoided answering about wallet. I also asked him about selling pictures of Sheila - I'm still waiting for a reply to that.

[Roch]

He told me there was no panic button but it wasn't until Vidvic had it confirmed by AE that it was accepted.

Maybe you didn't understand what I meant, I think a certain level of caution should be used when quoting Jeremy. It's in HIS best interest to have people believe there was a figure at the window so if guilty, he'll play on that. The panic alarm is benign - but don't forget how long he avoided answering about wallet. I also asked him about selling pictures of Sheila - I'm still waiting for a reply to that.

Fair points.  Though with regard to the wallet - I did kind of empathise with his reasons for the delay.

[susan]

Fair points.  Though with regard to the wallet - I did kind of empathise with his reasons for the delay.

Roch
IMO if JB did try and sell nude pictures of his sister this does not make him a murderer from the start Vic said the farmhouse did have a panic button but then he apologised and corrected himself to saying no panic button and I thought Jeremy had said this too.

[Adam]

Roch
IMO if JB did try and sell nude pictures of his sister this does not make him a murderer from the start Vic said the farmhouse did have a panic button but then he apologised and corrected himself to saying no panic button and I thought Jeremy had said this too.

Bamber sold everything he could from Sheila's flat. While Colin Caffell was not around. He told CC he needed the money.

[JackieD]

He told me there was no panic button but it wasn't until Vidvic had it confirmed by AE that it was accepted.

Maybe you didn't understand what I meant, I think a certain level of caution should be used when quoting Jeremy. It's in HIS best interest to have people believe there was a figure at the window so if guilty, he'll play on that. The panic alarm is benign - but don't forget how long he avoided answering about wallet. I also asked him about selling pictures of Sheila - I'm still waiting for a reply to that.

No you didn't

[lookout]

Bamber sold everything he could from Sheila's flat. While Colin Caffell was not around. He told CC he needed the money.

Yes-----he needed the money to pay for the £hundreds in death duties and funerals.

[Adam]

It's pretty obvious the one piece of evidence Roch says he has but won't divulge, is to do with forgery & framing.  Both within & outside of EP.

There is no way one piece of evidence from Roch can negate the 200+ pieces of incriminating evidence that has already been published & submitted at trial & at appeals. Unless it shows deliberate forgery.

[Adam]

Yes-----he needed the money to pay for the £hundreds in death duties and funerals.

Is that why he bought a consignment of cannabis in Amsterdam as well. Or was that for his jolly ups ?

[lookout]

Is that why he bought a consignment of cannabis in Amsterdam as well. Or was that for his jolly ups ?

What " consignment " was that then.? Holidays don't have anything to do with it,he had a couple of thousand of his own,so that's nobody's business.

[susan]

Bamber sold everything he could from Sheila's flat. While Colin Caffell was not around. He told CC he needed the money.

Adam

I know he sold stuff from Sheila's flat does that mean he murdered his family.  No.

[Adam]

Adam

I know he sold stuff from Sheila's flat does that mean he murdered his family.  No.

What about the forensic & circumstantial evidence ?

Or do you prefer to focus on Julie identifying the twins.

[Jane]

No you didn't

"No you didn't"? Are we to understand, from that, that you're saying Caroline is a liar?

[susan]

It's pretty obvious the one piece of evidence Roch says he has but won't divulge, is to do with forgery & framing.  Both within & outside of EP.

There is no way one piece of evidence from Roch can negate the 200+ pieces of incriminating evidence that has already been published & submitted at trial & at appeals. Unless it shows deliberate forgery.

Adam what you have posted is incorrect Roch has never said he had evidence he stated he had seen it and was not allowed to share with us as the evidence was not his to share.  You cannot make sweeping statements like this you nor I have a clue what evidence Roch has seen it could blow all of yours out the water and you may have to start again making new threads

[Jane]

Yes-----he needed the money to pay for the £hundreds in death duties and funerals.

Neither of which was required imminently. He could have paid for the funerals from his own money had it been necessary for him to do so. Death duties would have been paid from monies left by his parents. There was absolutely NO need for him to scrape funds together for either.

[Adam]

Adam what you have posted is incorrect Roch has never said he had evidence he stated he had seen it and was not allowed to share with us as the evidence was not his to share.  You cannot make sweeping statements like this you nor I have a clue what evidence Roch has seen it could blow all of yours out the water and you may have to start again making new threads

One piece of evidence can't blow 200+ pieces out of the water.

He would have to have seen something that showed there was large scale forgery & fabrication taking place to create all the evidence that convicted Bamber.