gresham school sex abuse allegation.

[Jane]

Apparently,a friendship developed during the period that CP visited WHF as she was writing her book.
I bet JB didn't know what was written,but they would surely have known what he'd said. A totally unfair advantage with JB not there to defend himself-----------and this is why these books had been written !

Every dog has his day so it's said-----JB's is long overdue,but he'll have his day and what a day it'll be.

Her 'friendship' with them can't be verified, can it? Of course, she'd have got to know them. Of course she'd have observed the usual courtesies -she was writing a book about their family- but whether that constitutes friendship or a good working relationship is anyone's guess. Anything which directly involved Jeremy she was free to check.

[lookout]

Which means what/how much, Lookout? Was she a friend PRIOR to the murders or did she approach them when she decided to write the book. She surely couldn't have been stupid enough to accept to be true, information regarding a conversation between deceased persons when THEY were the only ones present. Surely she wouldn't accept, as fact, a school sexual encounter, without checking with the person who was allegedly part of it? NO, your statement goes nowhere near to answering my questions because, as the author, the authenticating responsibility was hers and there was at least ONE person who could have confirmed or denied the allegation.

CP had approached them. Need I say more ? It would have been on several occasions judging by the notes she must have made prior to writing her book,so quite a period of time. No doubt she  remains to be a visitor to their humble abode.

[Jane]

CP had approached them. Need I say more ? It would have been on several occasions judging by the notes she must have made prior to writing her book,so quite a period of time. No doubt she  remains to be a visitor to their humble abode.

Lookout, how could she have written a book without approaching them? If I decide to write a book, I'd need to be in contact with those who have more knowledge, than I, of my chosen subject. Hopefully, whilst writing it, I'd remain on good terms with them but whether or not I remained so would be down to other work commitments. I don't actually have a problem with her continuing friendship with them -which probably includes June's sister, now a very old lady- IF it's true. It has yet to be proved, though. Vaulty Manor is a beautiful place in a lovely area.

[nugnug]

im suprised nobody else has looked into this allegation.

or maybe they have and decided its not true.

[Jane]

im suprised nobody else has looked into this allegation.

or maybe they have and decided its not true.

Maybe so, OR according to Jeremy's involvement he may have thought it prudent to deny it?

[nugnug]

well why would he deny if its true then he was the victem

[lookout]

Lookout, how could she have written a book without approaching them? If I decide to write a book, I'd need to be in contact with those who have more knowledge, than I, of my chosen subject. Hopefully, whilst writing it, I'd remain on good terms with them but whether or not I remained so would be down to other work commitments. I don't actually have a problem with her continuing friendship with them -which probably includes June's sister, now a very old lady- IF it's true. It has yet to be proved, though. Vaulty Manor is a beautiful place in a lovely area.

Perhaps one day it will be proved one way or the other,though it'll be these authors who are hoping and praying that JB never sees daylight.

[lookout]

Her 'friendship' with them can't be verified, can it? Of course, she'd have got to know them. Of course she'd have observed the usual courtesies -she was writing a book about their family- but whether that constitutes friendship or a good working relationship is anyone's guess. Anything which directly involved Jeremy she was free to check.

I'm almost certain that reference to their friendship is on the preface of the book.

[Jane]

Perhaps one day it will be proved one way or the other,though it'll be these authors who are hoping and praying that JB never sees daylight.

Do you believe they have any involvement save professionalism/earning a crust? I suspect many make a decision about whose side they'll take and approach it from that angle.

[JackiePreece]

This is about JB,not your thoughts on SH ! This is what you constantly tell me if I " veer " off a subject 

Thank you Lookout
Simon Hall was a sexual deviant, not to be compared

Jeremy does not need to deny rubbish from that book

I have been in contact over the years with a famous TV reporter who went to school with JB and he definately believes JB to be innocent

[lookout]

Do you believe they have any involvement save professionalism/earning a crust? I suspect many make a decision about whose side they'll take and approach it from that angle.

Well,considering money has great "pulling power",and the relatives feeling as though they'd won the Lottery,it would no longer be an object in their quest to " buy " as many friendships as they possibly could and the more who took their side,the better all round,even down to the police who,after their initial grouse about them,had done a " sterling " job.

[Jane]

Well,considering money has great "pulling power",and the relatives feeling as though they'd won the Lottery,it would no longer be an object in their quest to " buy " as many friendships as they possibly could and the more who took their side,the better all round,even down to the police who,after their initial grouse about them,had done a " sterling " job.

It feels as if you're letting your sympathies for Jeremy get the better of you, Lookout. The family won't have come out of this as unscathed as you would paint them. They didn't win the lottery and the money,  had they squandered it, wouldn't have ensured the family business is what it is today, secure for future generations. They can't be blamed if they felt supported by having people "on their side" but I don't believe they went out of their way to curry favour.

[Steve_uk]

is there any evdence to back up cliar powells allegation that jeremy bamber was abused at boarding school.

From what I recall of the books the evidence was that Jeremy told Brett Collins who (knowing his character again from the literature on the case) blabbed to all and sundry. Apparently he had been sexually abused by older pupils. He in turn became a bully himself to the new cohorts, but again this is all unsubstantiated.

[JackiePreece]

So once again there is NO evidence apart from someone trying to make some money and sell a book

[lookout]

When you think about it,there wasn't one person who'd been classed as reliable in their descriptions/statements of JB,and those who were,and went to the trouble of writing out character references about him,were snubbed when it came to presenting them in court-----------as they were never shown,why ?