Sandra Leans book "No Smoke" should be re-vised or withdrawn

[Stephanie]

Hi Steph, it must have been really hard dealing with Simon's death and his confession, you have my deepest sympathy and it's a credit how you have come through all this.  Have you ever thought of writing a book yourself or approaching tv how you had to deal with all this trauma and internet and family abuse?  I for one have found your story fascinating, there is a Bamber topic for any one not wishing to read or debate with you.

Hi Justice, appreciate your sentiments. Will come back to this.

[guest7363]

My niece (2) was staying over that night with two friends. They asked if I could get them some drink. I was not keen on the idea, but I agreed to get them two small bottles of WKD to share. Everybody was having a good time, just group of girls having girly chats. One of them said that she did not think that boys found her attractive so we all kept reassuring her and I made a silly comment that 'I would be'. I just meant to give her some confidence

[guest7363]

Hi Justice, appreciate your sentiments. Will come back to this.

Thanks Steph, I will be gone a while just off to empty the river Trent with Caroline.

[nugnug]

Hi Justice, appreciate your sentiments. Will come back to this.

so was sperm found at the crime scene could you confirm or refute this.

[guest7363]

so wassperm found at the crime scene could you confirm or refute this.

God we're going some now, I know DNA has advanced but wasp sperm?

[nugnug]

all this fuss becouse i asked a simple qustion that can be very easly answered.

[guest7363]

all this fuss becouse i asked a simple qustion that can be very easly answered.

Sorry Nugnug just trying to add humour, sometimes it takes the sting out of things.

[Stephanie]

Seems strange that two separate fires started Steph, surely that cannot be coincidence?  Didn't know that Billy moved in with Sandra, was he supplying drinks to underage girls as well?  What's that about a sexual charge?  Something not right here.

What also seems strange Justice is that Sandra Lean supported Billy Middleton's claims that he had been wrongly accused even after he had revealed another side to his personality.

It was AFTER these events that Sandra published her malicious blog, aimed at tarnishing my name and alluding to me being responsible for her having been accosted in her local shop. How do any of us know this happened? We only have Sandra's word for it. And as I have showed previously on this thread - there appears to be a pattern of her being accosted in shops?

[JackiePreece]

Hi Steph, it must have been really hard dealing with Simon's death and his confession, you have my deepest sympathy and it's a credit how you have come through all this.  Have you ever thought of writing a book yourself or approaching tv how you had to deal with all this trauma and internet and family abuse?  I for one have found your story fascinating, there is a Bamber topic for any one not wishing to read or debate with you.

Why don't you ask Stephanie how often she ever visited her gorgus hubby in prison when she assumed he was innocent

Many months apart
As for personal abuse she throws on a daily basis are you really saying she is handling things well
Has she ever apologised to the innocent people she openly accused of the murder

[nugnug]

What also seems strange Justice is that Sandra Lean supported Billy Middleton's claims that he had been wrongly accused even after he had revealed another side to his personality.

It was AFTER these events that Sandra published her malicious blog, aimed at tarnishing my name and alluding to me being responsible for her having been accosted in her local shop. How do any of us know this happened? We only have Sandra's word for it. And as I have showed previously on this thread - there appears to be a pattern of her being accosted in shops?

you seem to have avioded my qustion agian was sperm found at the crime scene.

[Stephanie]

Thanks Steph, I will be gone a while just off to empty the river Trent with Caroline.

Don't forget the bread to feed the trolls ducks.

Interestingly Sandra Lean and Billy Middleton didn't turn up for the 3 day appeal hearing in December 2010. According to Sandra, she told me she had her 'spies?' Peter Hill was there instead. Again according to Sandra he would be taking notes for her?

[guest7363]

Why don't you ask Stephanie how often she ever visited her gorgus hubby in prison when she assumed he was innocent

Many months apart
As for personal abuse she throws on a daily basis are you really saying she is handling things well
Has she ever apologised to the innocent people she openly accused of the murder

Hi Jackie, I think Steph has been through enough and whatever Steph wants to tell me she can, what she chooses not to is up to her.  We are all human and there is not a person living who doesn't make mistakes, the police told my daughter she would have been the last to know in her case and they can understand why she backed him up.  Friends or true friends or anyone who has been involved with Steph shouldn't need apologies, inside Steph is still grieving and hurt and I cannot but help and feel sadness for her, it's my nature, that's why it might be a good idea to write a book or do a tv programme, she could vent her anger and speak up for women like her.

[Stephanie]

My niece (2) was staying over that night with two friends. They asked if I could get them some drink. I was not keen on the idea, but I agreed to get them two small bottles of WKD to share. Everybody was having a good time, just group of girls having girly chats. One of them said that she did not think that boys found her attractive so we all kept reassuring her and I made a silly comment that 'I would be'. I just meant to give her some confidence

I missed this. Yes isn't this Billy Middletons speech, or is this taken from his website? There are several versions aren't there?
What about the murdered rabbits? Cruelty to animals.. Hmm

[guest7363]

I missed this. Yes isn't this Billy Middletons speech, or is this taken from his website? There are several versions aren't there?
What about the murdered rabbits? Cruelty to animals.. Hmm

Hang on Steph, just pulling the wet suit on, took Jackie and Lookouts advice.

[Stephanie]

Hang on Steph, just pulling the wet suit on, took Jackie and Lookouts advice.

If you are travelling by bike I'd take the scenic route like bamber did. Might draw attention to yourself otherwise.