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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #165 on: January 07, 2017, 12:34:PM »




Can you blame me when I've studied 4 large cases in the past and been right about them ?
This one would be the icing on the cake--------for ME,not anyone else.

Cases studied : Lindy Chamberlain.

                       Eddie Gilfoyle.

                       Joanne Woodward.

                       Madeleine McCann.


So does that mean your determination to be proved right comes before all else?

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #166 on: January 07, 2017, 12:40:PM »




Can you blame me when I've studied 4 large cases in the past and been right about them ?
This one would be the icing on the cake--------for ME,not anyone else.

Cases studied : Lindy Chamberlain.

                       Eddie Gilfoyle.

                       Joanne Woodward.

                       Madeleine McCann.

Thought so  ;) ;D
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« Reply #167 on: January 07, 2017, 12:57:PM »
Thought so  ;) ;D





Told you I was honest. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #168 on: January 07, 2017, 01:44:PM »




Told you I was honest. ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I have suggested this to you before, you have denied it.
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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #169 on: January 07, 2017, 02:08:PM »




Can you blame me when I've studied 4 large cases in the past and been right about them ?
This one would be the icing on the cake--------for ME,not anyone else.

Cases studied : Lindy Chamberlain. Where have you posted on this supporting her innocence? She was cleared in 2012

                       Eddie Gilfoyle. Still guilty/solved in the eyes of the law

                       Joanne Woodward. When did you publicly post on this one?

                       Madeleine McCann. Still missing/unsolved
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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #170 on: January 07, 2017, 02:51:PM »
A really open minded person WOULD have examined it fully if only to ensure that there were no other possibilities. Not doing so, suggests fear of finding such.

it makes you wonder if he was found innocent if there would still be this forum discussing his guilt doesn't it. Possibilities can be either way round Jane, that's what I find so frustrating about this case.

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #171 on: January 07, 2017, 02:56:PM »
it makes you wonder if he was found innocent if there would still be this forum discussing his guilt doesn't it. Possibilities can be either way round Jane, that's what I find so frustrating about this case.

Don't you think if he was found innocent the case would have been closed and he would have moved on with his life. Not like he would have needed to have had a campaign team and forums to fight for his innocence. It would have been already established.  ::)



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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #172 on: January 07, 2017, 02:59:PM »
it makes you wonder if he was found innocent if there would still be this forum discussing his guilt doesn't it. Possibilities can be either way round Jane, that's what I find so frustrating about this case.

They can, indeed. However, having looked at them from both sides, my first conclusion -that he was innocent- being emotional because of the adoption issue, I'm entirely convinced, now I see it objectively, that he's guilty.

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #173 on: January 07, 2017, 03:25:PM »
I was in Australia in 1982,September,October and November.When it was in the paper that Lindy was due at trial,I went and took an internal flight from Sydney where I was staying, to Darwin.I knew the poor woman was telling the truth,but nobody else in the courtroom did. Forensics,including one from here and had been wrong in their calculations by possibly following what the police had said about blood being found amongst clothing in their car. When tested again,it was said to have been copper-oxide from where the family resided there.
Prior to me going to Darwin,I visited Taronga zoo where there were dingos,and I love all animals,but those " dogs " were positively evil.

Eddie and his late wife,I'd met in a professional capacity while I was working at the hospital she had booked into to have her child. I'd been the last one to write my entry into her notes because it had been her final visit before the birth.She was 8mths gone at the time. Eddie worked in the other hospital a few miles from the one where I was.
They were a pleasant couple with wife Paula looking beautiful and radiant,perfectly dressed and no sign that there was anything amiss with either of them.It wasn't long after that,that I heard the sad news and couldn't believe either that Eddie had " murdered " her,or that she'd hanged herself.
Slowly,her past was filtering through,apart from the fact that she was a depressive which I'd known,there were past attempts on taking her own life. Then a boyfriend had been charged with the murder of a girl he'd been seeing while going out with Paula.
I actually knew that young man as he was training to be a hairdresser ( late 60's-70's ) but on my way to work one morning,he approached me covered in blood and my first thoughts were that he'd been in a fight,then he told me what he'd done,so I directed him to the local police station and told him to give himself up------------he did just that,without a choice really because I'd have reported him anyway. I don't know his whereabouts now as he'll have served his time.
Paula's diaries,which were produced 16 years later,told all there was to know about her state of mind and 3 years later,Eddie was released on licence,which still applies since 2010,so as regards the law,they haven't admitted the mistakes that THEY all made.

Again,I was in Australia during the Woodward case,but wasn't posting on any forum,or with Lindy,but because I'd followed the case in Oz,as soon as I returned home I wrote to Louise's parents giving them my support for their daughter.

The McCann case was on a forum and the constant barrage of verbal abuse was horrendous. Patti was on it for years with me and also another woman who I've kept in touch with for the past 10 years. Most on the forum believed that Madeleine had been murdered by her parents,so they followed Amaral and his cohorts.
What the McCanns did wrong was leaving the children,and for that will suffer their own life sentence until they die. They know that but didn't ask for all the threats and abuse that they got.
A cop also posted on the McCann forum.He too was suspicious about the parents.One day I mentioned the Eddie Gilfoyle case and he didn't post again.   

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #174 on: January 07, 2017, 03:38:PM »
Eddie and his late wife,I'd met in a professional capacity while I was working at the hospital she had booked into to have her child. I'd been the last one to write my entry into her notes because it had been her final visit before the birth.She was 8mths gone at the time. Eddie worked in the other hospital a few miles from the one where I was.
They were a pleasant couple with wife Paula looking beautiful and radiant,perfectly dressed and no sign that there was anything amiss with either of them.It wasn't long after that,that I heard the sad news and couldn't believe either that Eddie had " murdered " her,or that she'd hanged herself.
Slowly,her past was filtering through,apart from the fact that she was a depressive which I'd known,there were past attempts on taking her own life. Then a boyfriend had been charged with the murder of a girl he'd been seeing while going out with Paula.
I actually knew that young man as he was training to be a hairdresser ( late 60's-70's ) but on my way to work one morning,he approached me covered in blood and my first thoughts were that he'd been in a fight,then he told me what he'd done,so I directed him to the local police station and told him to give himself up------------he did just that,without a choice really because I'd have reported him anyway. I don't know his whereabouts now as he'll have served his time.
Paula's diaries,which were produced 16 years later,told all there was to know about her state of mind and 3 years later,Eddie was released on licence,which still applies since 2010,so as regards the law,they haven't admitted the mistakes that THEY all made.

So you gave evidence in Paula's ex boyfriends trial?

Eddie Gylfoyle is still guilty in the eyes of the law. What makes you think everyone who is a 'depressive' kills themselves? And what is a 'depressive?' xxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xx xxx xxxx xx xxxxxxxx?
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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #175 on: January 07, 2017, 03:54:PM »
So you gave evidence in Paula's ex boyfriends trial?

Eddie Gylfoyle is still guilty in the eyes of the law. What makes you think everyone who is a 'depressive' kills themselves? And what is a 'depressive?' What qualifications do you have in psychiatry?





No,I didn't give evidence in the ex-boyfriend's trial. All I told him to do was to give himself up.

You said earlier that the law said he wasn't guilty.

I'd studied for my SRN and also RMN in the 60's 70's and 80's,including proof-reading exams in between..

Depressives include those with Bi-Polar,who CAN be violent.

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #176 on: January 07, 2017, 04:02:PM »




No,I didn't give evidence in the ex-boyfriend's trial. All I told him to do was to give himself up.

You said earlier that the law said he wasn't guilty.

I'd studied for my SRN and also RMN in the 60's 70's and 80's,including proof-reading exams in between..

Depressives include those with Bi-Polar,who CAN be violent.

Depressives CAN/DO include every one of us. Having a mental illness as an add on is by the by.

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2017, 04:06:PM »




No,I didn't give evidence in the ex-boyfriend's trial. All I told him to do was to give himself up.

You said earlier that the law said he wasn't guilty.

I'd studied for my SRN and also RMN in the 60's 70's and 80's,including proof-reading exams in between..

Depressives include those with Bi-Polar,who CAN be violent.

Didn't the police come looking for you? Re Paula's ex boyfriend?

I said earlier in the eyes of the law Eddie is still guilty; his innocent has not been proven.

So you don't have any qualifications in mental health then

I still don't know what you mean by depressives. You say they include bi-polar; what else do 'depressives' include?

I've never heard of people with mental health issues being referred to as "depressives."
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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #178 on: January 07, 2017, 04:07:PM »
Depressives CAN/DO include every one of us. Having a mental illness as an add on is by the by.




I know of a bi-polar sufferer who's very violent, but crafty with it.

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Re: 2002 Appeal: Determining the time of Bamber's second call to Julie:
« Reply #179 on: January 07, 2017, 04:21:PM »



I know of a bi-polar sufferer who's very violent, but crafty with it.

That describes SOME bi-polar sufferers, not ALL.