Giovani's Spy Ring Murder plot - a new lead...

[Adam]

Unlike Sheila, AP committing the massacre is an option for supporters.  He was not on Haloperiodol, knew how to use the murder weapon & was strong enough overcome Nevill in a fight.

A just awake Bamber may believe it was Nevill rather than AP saying 11 words to him.

But a bit optimistic AP thinking he could frame Sheila & then convince the police it was Bamber.

Not sure what AP's motivation was either as the relatives were already rich

Bit extreme as well suddenly murdering 5 people, as AP had no criminal history.

But as I said, Sheila committing the massacre is not an option.

[sherlock]

No stone unturned - i like your style Mike.

I think you will find the correct spelling is "Marzovilla".
"Craig Jacobs" and "Stephen Marzovilla" were aliases of "Scott Nicholas Errico".
Scott was heavily involved in very large scale drug importing to USA.
And definitely his USA based firm were very involved in many murders.

Like you i would seriously like to know why he was linked to the Bamber case.

Here is one link to get you started :

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/archive/whoprofits.html

This one is in French but can easily be translated :

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yqIwK4DGZmoJ:https://issuu.com/taolkurun/docs/les_blanchisseurs+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Let us know how you get on researching this one.

When i looked into Stefanos war time revenge claims i came up with a strong suspect - a major Hollywood drug dealer - so let me know if you find any Hollywood links 

Scott Errico was arrested at Heathrow airport (about to fly to Spain) on 5th September 1985.
Scotland Yard had been following him in England.
It appears he gave a lot of information to the English Police about drugs and money laundering.
The entry in the Bamber log was from 12th September 1985.
This was 7 days after his arrest.
It is therefore likely that he mentioned something to Police that somehow related to the Bamber case.
What on earth could that have been ?
He was taken back to the USA where he was from and convicted of at least 2 murders.
He had shot his two victims - he was an enforcer / hitman for a Florida drug smuggling gang.
It appears Scott and his gang were involved in laundering theirs and other peoples money.
It was believed they laundered some of the Brinks Mat gold.
The gang extensively used British based banks to launder their money.
They also used British territories for example isle of man banks etc.
Why does the Bamber log use his 2 aliases and not his real name ?
Scotland Yard knew those 2 names were aliases of Sotts well before the Bamber log entry.
Why did the message come from the Police press office ?
Was DS M Beaveridge an Essex Policeman or a Scotland Yard officer ?
Where is DS M Beaveridge now ?
What does he know ?

Anyone else's thoughts ideas or research on the above would be interesting ...

[Caroline]

Scott Errico was arrested at Heathrow airport (about to fly to Spain) on 5th September 1985.
Scotland Yard had been following him in England.
It appears he gave a lot of information to the English Police about drugs and money laundering.
The entry in the Bamber log was from 12th September 1985.
This was 7 days after his arrest.
It is therefore likely that he mentioned something to Police that somehow related to the Bamber case.
What on earth could that have been ?
He was taken back to the USA where he was from and convicted of at least 2 murders.
He had shot his two victims - he was an enforcer / hitman for a Florida drug smuggling gang.
It appears Scott and his gang were involved in laundering theirs and other peoples money.
It was believed they laundered some of the Brinks Mat gold.
The gang extensively used British based banks to launder their money.
They also used British territories for example isle of man banks etc.
Why does the Bamber log use his 2 aliases and not his real name ?
Scotland Yard knew those 2 names were aliases of Sotts well before the Bamber log entry.
Why did the message come from the Police press office ?
Was DS M Beaveridge an Essex Policeman or a Scotland Yard officer ?
Where is DS M Beaveridge now ?
What does he know ?

Anyone else's thoughts ideas or research on the above would be interesting ...

Dear me! Anything on the hunched man yet?

[David1819]

Dear me! Anything on the hunched man yet?

Isn't he supposed to be John Sweeney? 

[Caroline]

Isn't he supposed to be John Sweeney? 

Yes, we originally had John Sweeney and his supposed picture of Sheila, then AP and now this bloke  . There is supposed to be proof of the hunched man leaving WHF on the night of the murders while police were outside - not sure why it's taking so long to surface?

[Adam]

I've already created a thread asking if the hunched man was part of the hit man team.

However it now seems that it could have been AP.

[lookout]

What was John Sweeney ( the butcher ) doing with pics of Sheila ? Were they newspaper cuttings or proper photo's ?

[Caroline]

What was John Sweeney ( the butcher ) doing with pics of Sheila ? Were they newspaper cuttings or proper photo's ?

None of the above, simply a theory of Sherlock when he first arrived here.

[lookout]

None of the above, simply a theory of Sherlock when he first arrived here.

Nothing wrong with a theory like that because Sweeney,a psychopath,used to frequent Chelsea and that area in the 80's and 90's and had murdered a model around that time,then went on to butcher many more women. I've often wondered if it was him who'd " bottled " JB while JB was on the phone that time.

[Jane]

All contributions welcome which will create a conspiracy.

[lookout]

No worse than your own conspiracies given that you don't believe that Sheila had killed the family and I certainly don't believe it was Jeremy. There were unsolved murders by the truckload between 1980 and 1990 because of poor detection rates among officers.
Have they found Diane Jone's murderer yet ? No !

[Jane]

So it's "make up anything, however bizarre" time. It's "all might haves are possible" time. It's "let's make every other unsolved crime in Essex proof of Jeremy's innocence" time. Far as I'm concerned, they made up for all the other incidences of poor detection when they convicted Jeremy.

[sherlock]

Scott Errico was arrested at Heathrow airport (about to fly to Spain) on 5th September 1985.
Scotland Yard had been following him in England.
It appears he gave a lot of information to the English Police about drugs and money laundering.
The entry in the Bamber log was from 12th September 1985.
This was 7 days after his arrest.
It is therefore likely that he mentioned something to Police that somehow related to the Bamber case.
What on earth could that have been ?
He was taken back to the USA where he was from and convicted of at least 2 murders.
He had shot his two victims - he was an enforcer / hitman for a Florida drug smuggling gang.
It appears Scott and his gang were involved in laundering theirs and other peoples money.
It was believed they laundered some of the Brinks Mat gold.
The gang extensively used British based banks to launder their money.
They also used British territories for example isle of man banks etc.
Why does the Bamber log use his 2 aliases and not his real name ?
Scotland Yard knew those 2 names were aliases of Sotts well before the Bamber log entry.
Why did the message come from the Police press office ?
Was DS M Beaveridge an Essex Policeman or a Scotland Yard officer ?
Where is DS M Beaveridge now ?
What does he know ?

Anyone else's thoughts ideas or research on the above would be interesting ...

I can shed a little more light on this now ...

There was an officer Mike Beaveridge working at Essex Police Press Office for sure in 1986.
There was a sergeant Mike Beaveridge contributing to Essex Police newspaper in 1984.
It is a fair assumption then that "DS M Beaveridge" was working for Essex Police press office in 1985.

Other people working in the press office around that time include :

Constable W Kennedy
Chief Inspector Allan Tapling
probably Carol Rivers

Any of these may know something having worked in the pres office at the rime.
They next question is where are they now and what do they know ?
Any clues anyone ?

It is possible this could partly explain why some documents are still PII.
The Brinks Mat investigation was huge and obviously involved all security services.
It is almost certain Scott had a chat with the security services whilst in English custody.
What he told them could have been very sensitive indeed.

What is the connection to the Bamber case ?

[sherlock]

Nothing wrong with a theory like that because Sweeney,a psychopath,used to frequent Chelsea and that area in the 80's and 90's and had murdered a model around that time,then went on to butcher many more women. I've often wondered if it was him who'd " bottled " JB while JB was on the phone that time.

Funnily enough Scott Errico frequented Chelsea while he was in England ..
What was the bottling incident about ? i haven't heard of it before ...
Didn't Mike once mention a mysterious American women fleeing a Chelsea hotel ?

Another coincidence - Jeremy was first questioned by Police just a few days after Scott started telling Police everything he knew about every one he knew - (and that was a huge amount) ...

The entry on the Bamber log was a few days after Scott started telling Police everything he knew about every one he knew ...

the log refers to the word "info" ...
he told Police at that time about multiple murders he had been involved in ...

Why was his two aliases on the Bamber log ?
What's the connection ?

[sherlock]

Yes, we originally had John Sweeney and his supposed picture of Sheila, then AP and now this bloke  . There is supposed to be proof of the hunched man leaving WHF on the night of the murders while police were outside - not sure why it's taking so long to surface?

Caroline - you will have to wait a little longer for the hunched man documentation ...

John Sweeney is in prison and never being released ...
Police are sure he killed more women than he has been convicted for ..
Dirrk van Hussel (remember him ?) and Sweeney are definitely connected ...

Dirrk van Hussel was potentially connected to Bamber ...