The only opportunity Bamber had to kill his sister, was after 8.10am!!!

[Caroline]

It's obvious JM turned queens evidence, hence why this information is held under PII. It's there for her protection. And to no doubt ensure Jeremy Bamber does not approach her directly or indirectly.

And it's also obvious this is why he hasn't publicly spoken of her in relation to his case. Though if he were innocent, he would not care of any backlash, surely?  As one of his old letters to Mikes say; he can't go to prison for it, can he? So what is he afraid of I wonder?

If that were me and I was innocent, I would make sure I condemned her at every opportunity and make sure the world knew she had lied.

[Stephanie]

If that were me and I was innocent, I would make sure I condemned her at every opportunity and make sure the world knew she had lied.

Exactly Caroline!!!!

But wait for the replies by the handful of people who support his innocence; they will make excuses for him, as I once did when I learned SH had burgled on the night of the murder! (November 2012)

It's called denial. They don't want to believe they have been conned and do not question their conflicting thoughts. Plus, a highly disordered individual can be extremely convincing! And they will think nothing of recruiting other victims to support their lies! I use the word 'victim' loosely, as I do not believe all those involved were victims per se.

People only need read back on old threads to see how I behaved at the time and how others behaved. Some posters were going out of there way to condemn me and assassinate my character. Even suggesting I had ruined SH's campaign, after all their years of hard work!  That was SH's own doing! The truth was coming out and I was calling him and others out on their behaviours. Those people who were victimising me should hang their heads in shame too! Though it's unlikely many of them have or will; preferring to blame others as opposed to looking at their own faults.

I remember asking the CCRC if PII were involved in the SH case. I recall well them telling me, it was unlikely in a case like this. I still have questions regarding this. Did JBarker turn Queens evidence also or did the police really not know of the Zenith burglary. A letter was received from Suffolk police by mid-late 2013 saying no charges would be brought in relation to the burglary omission.

SH blogged about this in early 2013 and alluded to JBarker and his mother having lied about their timings. The lengths they will go to is quite astounding. And they have no shame in what they do; even when caught out!

[Stephanie]

If that were me and I was innocent, I would make sure I condemned her at every opportunity and make sure the world knew she had lied.

Posters should be reminded of Jeremy Bambers letter to Mike where he wrote something like; "What are they going to do to me? Send me to prison.... Or words to that affect!!

His avoidance of Julie Mugford is a HUGE red flag!!

[Jane]

I see a huge case here of -allegedly- EVERYONE but Jeremy, being in the wrong. I was discussing this earlier today with friends of his parents. We all wondered WHY, if he is innocent, he's not SCREAMING Julie's guilt from the roof tops, when he's done SO much to condemn his relatives for allegedly trying to relieve him of his rightful inheritance, even bringing a case against them. We came to the conclusion that he's kept a deliberately low profile about Julie, because IF she's guilty of anything, so, undoubtedly, is he, of much more.

[Roch]

Has he not attacked Julie Mugford via the Campaign Team and supporters - like many of the other prosecution witnesses? She was pursued prior to the 2002 appeal; and pursued again in Canada during the Simon McKay period.

[lookout]

Make your mind up Lookout, is Julie guilty of mass murder or not? You JUST posted that she was and if she is, then Jeremy is guilty. I'm simply reacting to your post, if it wasn't well thought out, that's down to you.

I wrote it for YOUR benefit,not mine-------wake up!

[Jane]

Has he not attacked Julie Mugford via the Campaign Team and supporters - like many of the other prosecution witnesses? She was pursued prior to the 2002 appeal; and pursued again in Canada during the Simon McKay period.

From what's been said on this forum, she AND her family have certainly been attacked, if not HOUNDED. Neither Julie nor her family was on trial. She wouldn't be the first person to turn Queen's Council.

[Stephanie]

Has he not attacked Julie Mugford via the Campaign Team and supporters - like many of the other prosecution witnesses? She was pursued prior to the 2002 appeal; and pursued again in Canada during the Simon McKay period.

He will say his supporters have taken matters into their own hands...

Bot NO Roch; Jeremy Bamber has never publicly blogged or spoken of Julie Mugford!

Can you post a link to or give examples of those people who pursued Julie Mugford in Canada during the Simon McKay period? Or at least be more specific as to whom you are referring? Could their behaviour have been described as 'harassing' in nature? Were they ever contacted by the police in order to stop said behaviour? It not, are they still pursuing JM? And if not; Why not?

I want to make it clear; I am not encouraging anyone to pursue Julie Mugford in anyway, shape or form.

And I would suggest that those people who think of doing so, think very carefully of the consequences of their actions.

More importantly they should ask themselves why Jeremy Bamber doesn't do this himself! After all; what's the worse that can happen to him if he did? (See letter he once wrote to Mike T!)

[Stephanie]

I see a huge case here of -allegedly- EVERYONE but Jeremy, being in the wrong. I was discussing this earlier today with friends of his parents. We all wondered WHY, if he is innocent, he's not SCREAMING Julie's guilt from the roof tops, when he's done SO much to condemn his relatives for allegedly trying to relieve him of his rightful inheritance, even bringing a case against them. We came to the conclusion that he's kept a deliberately low profile about Julie, because IF she's guilty of anything, so, undoubtedly, is he, of much more.

That's exactly it Jane!!

He has intentionally avoided the subject of Julie Mugford!!

[lookout]

Has he not attacked Julie Mugford via the Campaign Team and supporters - like many of the other prosecution witnesses? She was pursued prior to the 2002 appeal; and pursued again in Canada during the Simon McKay period.

Jeremy's form of attacking is entirely different to how the" unintelligent " would act,which includes myself as I'd be like the proverbial fishwife like many others would be. However,Jeremy thinks first and uses wording appropriate to his own form of action.
Leaping up and down and fisting walls might vent feelings,but solves nothing when the state of mind is just focussed on revenge.
By spending all these years inside has given him the chance to study everything bit by bit of what's been written in files/documents and statements. Forewarned is Forearmed and that's a good position for Jeremy rather than jumping in feet first in a burst of anger and knowing nothing.

[Stephanie]

Jeremy's form of attacking is entirely different to how the" unintelligent " would act,which includes myself as I'd be like the proverbial fishwife like many others would be. However,Jeremy thinks first and uses wording appropriate to his own form of action.
Leaping up and down and fisting walls might vent feelings,but solves nothing when the state of mind is just focussed on revenge.
By spending all these years inside has given him the chance to study everything bit by bit of what's been written in files/documents and statements. Forewarned is Forearmed and that's a good position for Jeremy rather than jumping in feet first in a burst of anger and knowing nothing.

Why is you cannot see what is staring you in the face Lookout?

What you describe of Jeremy Bamber is a cunning, manipulative and malicious individual. He attacks covertly Lookout. Covert emotional manipulation!

When you refer to unintelligent people, you are referring to those of us who have nothing to hide!

Your excuses for his lack of anger are a form of denial.

[lookout]

Why is you cannot see what is staring you in the face Lookout?

What you describe of Jeremy Bamber  is a cunning, manipulative and malicious individual.

Your excuses for his lack of anger are a form of denial.

Because I'm NOT you !!

[Jane]

Jeremy's form of attacking is entirely different to how the" unintelligent " would act,which includes myself as I'd be like the proverbial fishwife like many others would be. However,Jeremy thinks first and uses wording appropriate to his own form of action.
Leaping up and down and fisting walls might vent feelings,but solves nothing when the state of mind is just focussed on revenge.
By spending all these years inside has given him the chance to study everything bit by bit of what's been written in files/documents and statements. Forewarned is Forearmed and that's a good position for Jeremy rather than jumping in feet first in a burst of anger and knowing nothing.

Rose tinted spectacles, Lookout.

[Stephanie]

About covert emotional manipulation http://psychopathsandlove.com/covert-emotional-manipulation/

[mike tesko]

But this was under the express wish of Bamber, not the Police. That is true...For June to have imagined she would have been cremated would have been sacrilege to her. Point taken. Nevertheless, her remains would almost certainly have been buried prior to the effort to formally arrest Jeremy at the beginning of September.  The thing which worries me Is that prior to the cremation and the burials of the victims bodies, neither the relatives or any police officer objected formally to the release of the bodies prior to the disposal of all five victims. This could have been done considering the amount of suspicion in the air from a very early stage. I personally know that what I am saying is true, because a similar situation arose when my nephew, Joseph, was murdered by local drug dealers. The fact that the silencer had become an issue from as early as the 10th August 1985, was as it turned out sufficient to postpone the release of the bodies for disposal prior to the dates of the cremations and burials. Nobody can realistically argue that the bodies got disposed of purely on Jeremys say so. The bodies of the five victims were not Jeremy's property, the bodies belonged to the state, first and foremost. The pathologist,  the Deputy coroner, the police and the relatives all had the opportunity to delay the release of the bodies of all five victims. Therefore, the accusing finger of guilt should not be directed in his direction, Solely...