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Offline mike tesko

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Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« on: December 18, 2016, 08:20:AM »
Here, look at and consider the following sequential sequence of events (by reference to imagery), of the phases of the moon?
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2016, 08:30:AM »
U see, I am puzzled by the common explanation on hand to members of the public, relating to the shape and size of the moon in the foregoing cycle. I see problems with it. I am in agreement with 50% of the viewable magery, but I am at odds with the other 50% of the imagery. Something is clearly wrong!!!
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2016, 08:34:AM »
Imagery of new moon to full moon, fine I doubt have a problem with. But the imagery of new moon to full moon, is fraught with danger...
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2016, 09:28:AM »
Problem arises in connection with full moon to new moon imagery cycle...
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2016, 09:32:AM »
Problem arises in connection with full moon to new moon imagery cycle...

I first noticed this from a couple of days ago, the curvature of the moon imagery at this time appeared to me to be problematic considering that the sun in in all its glory was present in the sky along with the moon, unobstructed by the earth!!!
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2016, 09:35:AM »
With the sun visible to the naked eye in the daylit sky, how come the moon was not fully illuminated in 360° of all it's splendour?
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2016, 09:42:AM »
Now, I get this principle:-
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2016, 09:45:AM »
I just don't get this:-
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2016, 09:56:AM »
How is it possible for the surface of the moon to be illuminated by the sun with the earth partially blocking it's view in the following image, if the earth is circular in appearance? With the earth in-between the sun and the moon how can the right hand curvature represent a partial block of sunlight illuminating the moon (with the earth in its path)?  Curvature on right hand side of moons image doesn't fit. Looks like earth cannot be circular in its entirety at all. Looks to me like the earth must be circular and concurved...
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2016, 10:03:AM »
It probably depends on what part of earth was photographed as it travelled around the sun. The angles of which it was taken that give it a concave/converse  " egg-shaped appearance.
I'm not up to speed with the movements of the earth at all and its magnetism and gravitational pull and all that.

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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2016, 10:35:AM »
It probably depends on what part of earth was photographed as it travelled around the sun. The angles of which it was taken that give it a concave/converse  " egg-shaped appearance.
I'm not up to speed with the movements of the earth at all and its magnetism and gravitational pull and all that.

Hi, Lookout

It truly is a fascinating subject - only yesterday it struck me as being something of an inigma, because the sun was high in the sky along with the so called waning moon in the same sky. Why in such circumstances wasn't the sunlight illuminating the whole 360° of the moon's surface, and obviously with the sun high up in the sky without the earth anywhere in-between the path from sun to moon...
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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2016, 11:00:AM »
Hi, Lookout

It truly is a fascinating subject - only yesterday it struck me as being something of an inigma, because the sun was high in the sky along with the so called waning moon in the same sky. Why in such circumstances wasn't the sunlight illuminating the whole 360° of the moon's surface, and obviously with the sun high up in the sky without the earth anywhere in-between the path from sun to moon...





The seasons dictate the height of the sun so far as I know,with the sun being at its highest in Winter.
I suppose the moon too is dependent on its phases along with the directional pull in its atmosphere.
I can agree that it's a fascinating and interesting subject,but so much to learn.

My late husband was a " sky at night " boffin and had a telescope.I used to tell him he'd end up with a twitch like Patrick Moore had.

The sunrises over the Far East are something else,they're magnificent and appear enormous especially when flying. In fact the sky changes as you go further East,particularly at night when you see showers of shooting stars once you reach Australia's outback. Their sky is jam-packed with stars.

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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2016, 11:08:AM »
Perhaps if I'd listened and followed my husband more regarding astronomy/astrology I just might have learned something instead of asking him if he could see Uranus. ;D.

The moon is still there with the sun in the Summertime.It's just that it's more pronounced in Winter due to the darker skies.

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Re: Are they lying and trying to deceive us?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2016, 04:44:PM »
How is it possible for the surface of the moon to be illuminated by the sun with the earth partially blocking it's view in the following image, if the earth is circular in appearance?
The earth isn't blocking the sunlight. About half of the moon is experiencing lunar daytime, but not all of that half is seen by the camera.