The only opportunity Bamber had to kill his sister, was after 8.10am!!!

[lookout]

I sincerely hope that all the relatives of those in prison have read and are reading about JM and her criminal background and how she wormed her way out of a prison sentence KNOWING that someone was about to murder an entire family ! It ought to be headlined.

[Stephanie]

The thing is Steve,that EP initially had nothing on JB,nor did they suspect him,but because so many were saying that it was impossible for Sheila to have committed all those murders,especially of her sons who she so dearly loved,they took the easy way out and listened to what others were saying instead of continuing properly with their investigation even though it didn't throw up anything that involved Jeremy-----------except hearsay about his character. A fair trial ? Never.

You do not know this Lookout. It's highly likely he was a suspect but that he's chosen to not disclose documentation linked to this.

[Stephanie]

I sincerely hope that all the relatives of those in prison have read and are reading about JM and her criminal background and how she wormed her way out of a prison sentence KNOWING that someone was about to murder an entire family ! It ought to be headlined.

Why do you hope that? Why all the relatives of those in prison? Has Jeremy said something to you about his safety from other prisoners?

Julie Mugford was a prosecution witness not a murder suspect! How long are you and people like you going to condemn her?

What ought to be headlined are Jeremy Bambers OASIS reports or equivalent; then you and all his other supporters will get a glimpse of the actual person you are publicly defending.

[Stephanie]

The thing is Steve,that EP initially had nothing on JB,nor did they suspect him,but because so many were saying that it was impossible for Sheila to have committed all those murders,especially of her sons who she so dearly loved,they took the easy way out and listened to what others were saying instead of continuing properly with their investigation even though it didn't throw up anything that involved Jeremy-----------except hearsay about his character. A fair trial ? Never.

Jeremy Bamber would have been a suspect until such time that he was eliminated by the police. Why do you think he wasn't a suspect?

[Caroline]

With so many people in prison due to being accessories to crime,how do you think their relatives feel at the thought of JM being scott-free of one of the worst cases of mass murder in this country ?
Guilters should hang their heads in shame that they've allowed her to get away with mass murder whilst others are serving sentences of " just knowing and being there without physical involvement" !!

Then you shold hang your head further because if she got away scott free, it means Jeremy is guilty and you are defending him and advocating his release!

[Adam]

With so many people in prison due to being accessories to crime,how do you think their relatives feel at the thought of JM being scott-free of one of the worst cases of mass murder in this country ?
Guilters should hang their heads in shame that they've allowed her to get away with mass murder whilst others are serving sentences of " just knowing and being there without physical involvement" !!

Julie was asleep in Lewisham when Bamber committed the massacre.

You are getting carried away with supporting Bamber and accusing a woman asleep in Lewisham of 'mass murder'.

But agree with you that Julie knew what Bamber had told her beforehand. She simply didn't believe him.

[Stephanie]

With so many people in prison due to being accessories to crime,how do you think their relatives feel at the thought of JM being scott-free of one of the worst cases of mass murder in this country ?
Guilters should hang their heads in shame that they've allowed her to get away with mass murder whilst others are serving sentences of " just knowing and being there without physical involvement" !!

Jordan Cunliffe was only driving the car-----he DIDN'T know what was going to happen,JM DID KNOW!!

Why would the relatives of those convicted as accessories to crime or under the joint enterprise law be interested in JM?

JM murdered NO ONE Lookout! It is you who should hang your head in shame for publicly stating she did!

And if Jordan Cuncliffe was only driving the car, why did he have a licence in the first place if his defence is that he was blind/partially sighted? Are you sure you've got your facts straight?

[Stephanie]

Julie was asleep in Lewisham when Bamber committed the massacre.

You are getting carried away with supporting Bamber and accusing a woman asleep in Lewisham of 'mass murder'.

But agree with you that Julie knew what Bamber had told her beforehand. She simply didn't believe him.

Couldn't agree more Adam. Seems Lookout may have got out of bed on the wrong side this morning?

Why one earth is she so angry and defending a man she has never met, making false public claims against a women who was ultimately a victim. And as you say, miles away sleeping in Lewisham!

False accusations will not overturn Bambers conviction! Nor make him appear innocent!

[Adam]

I sincerely hope that all the relatives of those in prison have read and are reading about JM and her criminal background and how she wormed her way out of a prison sentence KNOWING that someone was about to murder an entire family ! It ought to be headlined.

What is you're view of the caravan break in ?

Bamber said he would be the number 1 suspect but there is no way anyone could prove it.

He later said he did it to highlight security problems. Although he spent all the money taken.

It does relate to the massacre. In that it was financially motivated and against his own family. He also staged the scene to incriminate non existent burglars. Unlike the massacre he admitted to the burglary, when questioned.

[Stephanie]

Then you shold hang your head further because if she got away scott free, it means Jeremy is guilty and you are defending him and advocating his release!

Exactly Caroline! The humiliation and shame I felt following SH confession was horrendous. I cannot understand why it appears people like Lookout have learned nothing from the SH case?

Regardless of what she thinks of me; Why doesn't she look at all those people who publicly supported SH and put their reputations on the line; long before I did!

Dr Michael Naughton, Dr Sandra Lean, Mike O'Brien, David Jessel (CCRC), Sir Bob Russel MP, Tiernan Coyle, Michael Mansfield QC, BBC's Rough Justice team, Stephanie Bon, Private Eye, the various Miscarriage of Justice orgs, Professor Peter Bull, Campbell Malone - to name but a few!

[Stephanie]

Bamber said he would be the number 1 suspect but there is no way anyone could prove it.

He later said he did it to highlight security problems. Although he spent all the money taken.

It does relate to the massacre. In that it was financially motivated and against his own family. He also staged the scene to incriminate non existent burglars. Unlike the massacre he admitted to the burglary, when questioned.

Proof of his criminal versatility and a glimpse into his psyche.

He cannot afford to confess to his crimes due to the fact he will be classed as a nonce (Not of normal criminal element) by other prisoners.

[lookout]

Then you shold hang your head further because if she got away scott free, it means Jeremy is guilty and you are defending him and advocating his release!

No,it's just an excuse on your part,and because you, personally, know that JB is guilty it's just another way of getting JM off the hook.
At least I,personally,know he's innocent I can't be defending him,can I ?

[Stephanie]

No,it's just an excuse on your part,and because you, personally, know that JB is guilty it's just another way of getting JM off the hook.
At least I,personally,know he's innocent I can't be defending him,can I ?

Are you saying; You know Jeremy personally therefore he is innocent?

[Caroline]

No,it's just an excuse on your part,and because you, personally, know that JB is guilty it's just another way of getting JM off the hook.
At least I,personally,know he's innocent I can't be defending him,can I ?

Make your mind up Lookout, is Julie guilty of mass murder or not? You JUST posted that she was and if she is, then Jeremy is guilty. I'm simply reacting to your post, if it wasn't well thought out, that's down to you.

[Stephanie]

No,it's just an excuse on your part,and because you, personally, know that JB is guilty it's just another way of getting JM off the hook.
At least I,personally,know he's innocent I can't be defending him,can I ?

It's obvious JM turned queens evidence, hence why this information is held under PII. It's there for her protection. And to no doubt ensure Jeremy Bamber does not approach her directly or indirectly.

And it's also obvious this is why he hasn't publicly spoken of her in relation to his case. Though if he were innocent, he would not care of any backlash, surely?  As one of his old letters to Mikes say; he can't go to prison for it, can he? So what is he afraid of I wonder?