The only opportunity Bamber had to kill his sister, was after 8.10am!!!

[mike tesko]

If Essex police have not got anything to hide, what shooting does this officers report refer to?

Which cop discharged his weapon in the kitchen, and who got wounded (mistakenly believed to have been killed)?

[mike tesko]

The absolute truth is that this officers report about the shooting incident in the kitchen at whf, is linked to (7.37am) '... the body of one dead female in kitchen', or to put it another way, Sheila was in the kitchen when the shooting incident occurred...

[mike tesko]

The absolute truth is that this officers report about the shooting incident in the kitchen at whf, is linked to (7.37am) '... the body of one dead female in kitchen', or to put it another way, Sheila was in the kitchen when the shooting incident occurred...

So, we have Sheila in the kitchen at 7.37am, at least until 8.10am, we have the family owned rifle resting against or near to a first floor window (Jeapes/Brown) from 7.15am, onward, we have an officers report about a shooting incident in the kitchen (1156) at whf, we only have three bodies upstairs at 8.10am (other two bodies already reported as found in kitchen previously), we have an inserted page typed out by a different typewriter added into PS Woodcocks witness statement at the point where he is coming around the edge of the internal kitchen door (true events removed because it originally contained details of t he shooting incident involving himself and Sheila), we have Dr Craig pronouncing Sheila dead upstairs at 8.44am, we have senior officers performing 'informatives' around Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, we have the rifle standing at the main bedroom window (23) prior to the same rifle being photographed on Sheila's body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33), we have the original badly fragmented bullet (PV\20) visible inside Sheila's neck as shown in X-ray, we have a pathologist (Peter Venezis) who removes a badly fragmented piece of a bullet from Sheila's body during autopsy performed on 7th August, 1985, we have the prosecutions ballistic expert (Malcolm Fletcher) conducting unofficial test firing of the family rifle with two pieces of control ammunition ('DRH/42' - 29 x .22 bullets recovered from kitchen worktop) prior to, or on the 12th September, 1985, we have 'Fletcher' then conducting official test firing of the family owned rifle using the remaining 27 bullets ('DRH/42') on 20th and 25th September, 1985, and the 2nd October, 1985 (which he claims to use for all purposes of comparison tests' carried out against all the batch of crime scene ammunition, despite some comparisons of the same occurring prior to the 20th September, 1985), we have 'Fletcher' thereafter referring to bullet PV/20 as a whole bullet, which he identifies as having been loaded and fired via the family rifle (the fragmented bullet, 'PV/20' had been substituted with a test fired round by this stage, to cover up the use of a police bullet in the shooting incident in the kitchen), we have a photograph of the original piece of bullet (PV/20) as photographed by the defence ballistic expert (Major Mead) which weighed 26.56 grains, a loss of over 33.5% of its original mass in accordance with the manufacturers production weight if it be an Eley round...

The more we look, the more we find...

[mike tesko]

So, we have Sheila in the kitchen at 7.37am, at least until 8.10am, we have the family owned rifle resting against or near to a first floor window (Jeapes/Brown) from 7.15am, onward, we have an officers report about a shooting incident in the kitchen (1156) at whf, we only have three bodies upstairs at 8.10am (other two bodies already reported as found in kitchen previously), we have an inserted page typed out by a different typewriter added into PS Woodcocks witness statement at the point where he is coming around the edge of the internal kitchen door (true events removed because it originally contained details of t he shooting incident involving himself and Sheila), we have Dr Craig pronouncing Sheila dead upstairs at 8.44am, we have senior officers performing 'informatives' around Sheila's body on the bedroom floor, we have the rifle standing at the main bedroom window (23) prior to the same rifle being photographed on Sheila's body (25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33), we have the original badly fragmented bullet (PV\20) visible inside Sheila's neck as shown in X-ray, we have a pathologist (Peter Venezis) who removes a badly fragmented piece of a bullet from Sheila's body during autopsy performed on 7th August, 1985, we have the prosecutions ballistic expert (Malcolm Fletcher) conducting unofficial test firing of the family rifle with two pieces of control ammunition ('DRH/42' - 29 x .22 bullets recovered from kitchen worktop) prior to, or on the 12th September, 1985, we have 'Fletcher' then conducting official test firing of the family owned rifle using the remaining 27 bullets ('DRH/42') on 20th and 25th September, 1985, and the 2nd October, 1985 (which he claims to use for all purposes of comparison tests' carried out against all the batch of crime scene ammunition, despite some comparisons of the same occurring prior to the 20th September, 1985), we have 'Fletcher' thereafter referring to bullet PV/20 as a whole bullet, which he identifies as having been loaded and fired via the family rifle (the fragmented bullet, 'PV/20' had been substituted with a test fired round by this stage, to cover up the use of a police bullet in the shooting incident in the kitchen), we have a photograph of the original piece of bullet (PV/20) as photographed by the defence ballistic expert (Major Mead) which weighed 26.56 grains, a loss of over 33.5% of its original mass in accordance with the manufacturers production weight if it be an Eley round...

The more we look, the more we find...

Nothing of which can be said to be a technicality, all facts, all provable by reference to police records, lab' records...

[mike tesko]

These latest findings, illustrate now the reason why Essex police were reluctant during the first month of the police investigation into these murders to arrest Jeremy on suspicion of murder, despite them being strongly recommended to do so by relatives of the deceased. The audio recording of Jeremy's call to the police could not be destroyed, or taped over, until 28 days had elapsed after the key telephone call message of Ralph Bambers (3.26am), and Jeremy's call message (3.36am). Cops had to wait until after the expiry period of 28days before they could make the move to arrest him, because by that stage any incriminating evidence capable of supporting Bambers innocence were not be available because it would have been destroyed...

[mike tesko]

These latest findings, illustrate now the reason why Essex police were reluctant during the first month of the police investigation into these murders to arrest Jeremy on suspicion of murder, despite them being strongly recommended to do so by relatives of the deceased. The audio recording of Jeremy's call to the police could not be destroyed, or taped over, until 28 days had elapsed after the key telephone call message of Ralph Bambers (3.26am), and Jeremy's call message (3.36am). Cops had to wait until after the expiry period of 28days before they could make the move to arrest him, because by that stage any incriminating evidence capable of supporting Bambers innocence were not be available because it would have been destroyed...

By this stage, PC Bird (SOCO) had not been given the task of generating the misleading 'Master Copy Album' containing only 223 of the original 581 photographs, and enlargements which had been taken in total. As such, some of the missing 358 images which eventually did not see the light of day, might point to police involvement in Sheila Caffells death...

[mike tesko]

The bodies of the three adult victims had been cremated, and the bodies of both child victims had been buried, before police felt it safe to make a tentative step to arrest and prosecute Bamber. Yes, he was arrested, he was interviewed, charged, placed before the Magistrates court, and bailed for a burglary he admitted committing at Osea Road, Camp site...

[mike tesko]

During his interviews, police never told Jeremy that they had recovered a silencer which had been used in the shooting of her, or that her unique blood had been found inside the silencer. By the same token, they never mentioned the 'dodgy whole bullet bearing the identifying mark, 'PV/20' which when it had been recovered from Sheila's neck during autopsy, had been a piece of badly fragmented bullet, confirmed by X-ray, and much later, when the original piece of fragmented bullet had been photographed by defence ballistic expert, Major Mead....

[Steve_uk]

The bodies of the three adult victims had been cremated, and the bodies of both child victims had been buried, before police felt it safe to make a tentative step to arrest and prosecute Bamber. Yes, he was arrested, he was interviewed, charged, placed before the Magistrates court, and bailed for a burglary he admitted committing at Osea Road, Camp site...

But this was under the express wish of Bamber, not the Police. For June to have imagined she would have been cremated would have been sacrilege to her.

[lookout]

The bodies of the three adult victims had been cremated, and the bodies of both child victims had been buried, before police felt it safe to make a tentative step to arrest and prosecute Bamber. Yes, he was arrested, he was interviewed, charged, placed before the Magistrates court, and bailed for a burglary he admitted committing at Osea Road, Camp site...

I wonder what would have happened if the police hadn't have had the burglary at the camp site to fall back on ?

[Steve_uk]

I wonder what would have happened if the police hadn't have had the burglary at the camp site to fall back on ?

Well they would either have let him go for a few days or had to charge him there and then on suspicion of murder.

[lookout]

Well they would either have let him go for a few days or had to charge him there and then on suspicion of murder.

The thing is Steve,that EP initially had nothing on JB,nor did they suspect him,but because so many were saying that it was impossible for Sheila to have committed all those murders,especially of her sons who she so dearly loved,they took the easy way out and listened to what others were saying instead of continuing properly with their investigation even though it didn't throw up anything that involved Jeremy-----------except hearsay about his character. A fair trial ? Never.

[Adam]

It was good that Julie told the police about the caravan break in. Even though it would also incriminate her.

She could have not mentioned it and the police or public will never know who did it. Bamber was never going to volunteer this information to the police.

Julie may have told the police as she felt it was related to the massacre - Bamber committing a crime against his family for financial gain only months before the massacre.  It backs up her Witness Statement.

A bit calculated but it is true that Bamber committed the caravan break in.

[lookout]

With so many people in prison due to being accessories to crime,how do you think their relatives feel at the thought of JM being scott-free of one of the worst cases of mass murder in this country ?
Guilters should hang their heads in shame that they've allowed her to get away with mass murder whilst others are serving sentences of " just knowing and being there without physical involvement" !!

[lookout]

Jordan Cunliffe was only driving the car-----he DIDN'T know what was going to happen,JM DID KNOW!!