Jeremy Bamber and the Pity Play..

[lookout]

Possibly! I may not like the idea of it, but if I couldn't get to see the doctor, it may be better than nothing if I was in need. No doubt over phone diagnoses will be coming to a surgery near you, soon!!!

If/when a doctor already has your history of medical problems,then and only then would there be need for telephone advice regarding that. In the past,when there's been no need for me to see a GP or make any appointments, just advice,I've then rang and they've rang me back,but for a NEW or SUDDEN diagnosis via the phone,then a positive NO.
I doubt,or HOPE that I'll never have to change this arrangement that I have. I don't have a specific " family doctor " as the few times that I have visited,maybe, FORTUNATELY,once a year,there's someone different,so there'd be no consistency anyway,and I don't like that.

[Caroline]

One has to know someone PERSONALLY before carrying out/reading any psychological assessment/ research on that person.

You don't have to know them personally, but you do require some interaction. However, to have an opinion on a mass murderer's personality where quite a lot of information about them is readily available, you don't need such interaction.

[lookout]

You don't have to know them personally, but you do require some interaction. However, to have an opinion on a mass murderer's personality where quite a lot of information about them is readily available, you don't need such interaction.

I beg to differ. Police in the States painted the blackest picture of a guy who was released from Death Row after 20 years of incarceration there-------the guy was awaiting the electric chair for the alleged rape and murder of a woman and only for DNA taken years after his arrest,was it found that the man,Nick Yarris,had been innocent.

[Caroline]

I beg to differ. Police in the States painted the blackest picture of a guy who was released from Death Row after 20 years of incarceration there-------the guy was awaiting the electric chair for the alleged rape and murder of a woman and only for DNA taken years after his arrest,was it found that the man,Nick Yarris,had been innocent.

And?

[lookout]

And?

Does it not go to prove that the arm of the law aren't always right ? Even in murder cases !!

[Caroline]

Does it not go to prove that the arm of the law aren't always right ? Even in murder cases !!

I didn't say hey were always right and don't believe they are. However, I do believe Jeremy is guilty and shares many traits synonymous with psychopathy.

[notsure]

Apparently not. Doctors are now giving diagnoses over the phone.

Yes probably for non serious conditions but not for physchopathy, I'm sure of that. One simply can't diagnose that in one telephone conversation.

Mind you you can diagnose yourself for most things now
On google!!

[lookout]

I didn't say hey were always right and don't believe they are. However, I do believe Jeremy is guilty and shares many traits synonymous with psychopathy.

There are lots of people who share the same traits who are NOT psychopaths !

[Stephanie]

There are lots of people who share the same traits who are NOT psychopaths !

What are they then Lookout?

How would you describe someone who shares the same traits as a psychopath?

https://www.sott.net/article/268449-Empathic-people-are-natural-targets-for-sociopaths-protect-yourself

I remember well the "hangers-on" from 2013; especially those people who refused to accept SH's guilt.


The Emperor's New Clothes
In The Emperor's New Clothes by Hans Christian Anderson, two weavers promise the emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those who are stupid and unfit for their positions.

When the emperor parades before his subjects, all the adults, not wishing to be seen in a negative light, pretend they can see the clothes. The only truthful person is a child who cries "But he isn't wearing any clothes!".

The boy in the tale represents those who see the problem behavior for what it is and find the courage of their convictions to make a stand. Sight becomes insight, which turns into action.

[Caroline]

There are lots of people who share the same traits who are NOT psychopaths !

It depends on how many of the traits they share.

[Steve_uk]

I wouldn't know what the tests conducted in prison consist of to say definitively that Bamber was a psychopath. I think he experienced a feeling of alienation from an early age and when Brambles the dog died learned to shut off his feelings from the outside world. He and Sheila may or may not have contributed to June's second breakdown in 1982; both were financially secure but emotionally neglected, craving hugs from their partners and the need to feel reassurance that they were both wanted. In my view it's impossible to say whether both were bad, mad or just sad.

[Caroline]

What are they then Lookout?

How would you describe someone who shares the same traits as a psychopath?

https://www.sott.net/article/268449-Empathic-people-are-natural-targets-for-sociopaths-protect-yourself

I remember well the "hangers-on" from 2013; especially those people who refused to accept SH's guilt.


The Emperor's New Clothes
In The Emperor's New Clothes by Hans Christian Anderson, two weavers promise the emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those who are stupid and unfit for their positions.

When the emperor parades before his subjects, all the adults, not wishing to be seen in a negative light, pretend they can see the clothes. The only truthful person is a child who cries "But he isn't wearing any clothes!".

The boy in the tale represents those who see the problem behavior for what it is and find the courage of their convictions to make a stand. Sight becomes insight, which turns into action.

You just have to read these questions and from what we know about Jeremy, I think he would score pretty high (although it's not an actual diagnosis test) http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/psychopathy.htm

[Caroline]

I wouldn't know what the tests conducted in prison consist of to say definitively that Bamber was a psychopath. I think he experienced a feeling of alienation from an early age and when Brambles the dog died learned to shut off his feelings from the outside world. He and Sheila may or may not have contributed to June's second breakdown in 1982; both were financially secure but emotionally neglected, craving hugs from their partners and the need to feel reassurance that they were both wanted. In my view it's impossible to say whether both were bad, mad or just sad.

He doesn't get tested for psychopathy regularly Steve.

[Steve_uk]

He doesn't get tested for psychopathy regularly Steve.

Those tests seem pretty easy to circumvent anyhow.

[lookout]

It depends on how many of the traits they share.

I would say enough for them to be " on the border ". There's no turning back either,just progressiveness.