New proposed account of how Sheila could have committed the massacre:

[Caroline]

It would be interesting to find out if this meeting had taken place-----the evening before the murders.

Had such a meeting been arranged, Pam would have said so in her statement. There was no meeting the night before the murders unless you're talking about Monday night? But again, there was no mention of any meeting by anyone.

[lookout]

Had such a meeting been arranged, Pam would have said so in her statement. There was no meeting the night before the murders unless you're talking about Monday night? But again, there was no mention of any meeting by anyone.

There was a possibility that the meeting could well have been arranged for the actual night of the murders.

[Caroline]

There was a possibility that the meeting could well have been arranged for the actual night of the murders.

But Pam doesn't mention anything about it?

[lookout]

But Pam doesn't mention anything about it?
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She may not have thought it relevant after what had happened-----as no-one would,would they ?

[Jane]

There was a possibility that the meeting could well have been arranged for the actual night of the murders.

Then I think it a certainty that it would have been mentioned. Given that no one knew murders were going to occur, any meeting would have taken place prior to the murders and would have had no bearing on what subsequently transpired...................unless you're trying to make additions to those allegedly in on the alleged conspiracy.

[lookout]

Then I think it a certainty that it would have been mentioned. Given that no one knew murders were going to occur, any meeting would have taken place prior to the murders and would have had no bearing on what subsequently transpired...................unless you're trying to make additions to those allegedly in on the alleged conspiracy.

What " alleged conspiracy" is that ?. I don't do conspiracies anyway. It's only another word for an excuse.

[Jane]

What " alleged conspiracy" is that ?. I don't do conspiracies anyway. It's only another word for an excuse.

As I said, Lookout. IF some sort of family conference had been arranged for the night of the massacre, (putting aside everyone's apologies for non attendance) I see no reason for it not going ahead. That being the case, I see NO reason for it not to be mentioned and it wouldn't have been Pam's decision to make, anyway. Your suggestion that speaking of it may have been seen as being non relevant is suggestive of cover-up.

[Steve_uk]

As I said, Lookout. IF some sort of family conference had been arranged for the night of the massacre, (putting aside everyone's apologies for non attendance) I see no reason for it not going ahead. That being the case, I see NO reason for it not to be mentioned and it wouldn't have been Pam's decision to make, anyway. Your suggestion that speaking of it may have been seen as being non relevant is suggestive of cover-up.

Do you think Pam was rather a bossy person being the elder sister, whom June was desperately trying to emulate, hence the adoptions in the first place? I ask because 10pm is late for anyone to telephone a relative, especially in the farming community.

[lookout]

As I said, Lookout. IF some sort of family conference had been arranged for the night of the massacre, (putting aside everyone's apologies for non attendance) I see no reason for it not going ahead. That being the case, I see NO reason for it not to be mentioned and it wouldn't have been Pam's decision to make, anyway. Your suggestion that speaking of it may have been seen as being non relevant is suggestive of cover-up.

Well Betty Howie was in on it and I note that there was little,if any input from her during the trial. For all we know it could have been decided between her and Pam to say nothing,though it's strange that it had been noted but by whom,I don't know.
RWB could have known as he had his ear to the phone when Pam rang June on the night of the murders.

[Jane]

Well Betty Howie was in on it and I note that there was little,if any input from her during the trial. For all we know it could have been decided between her and Pam to say nothing,though it's strange that it had been noted but by whom,I don't know.
RWB could have known as he had his ear to the phone when Pam rang June on the night of the murders.

THAT being the case, it would have been conspiracy. Is no one -other than Jeremy- free of falling under suspicion?

[Jane]

Do you think Pam was rather a bossy person being the elder sister, whom June was desperately trying to emulate, hence the adoptions in the first place? I ask because 10pm is late for anyone to telephone a relative, especially in the farming community.

Steve, I've spoken previously about sibling rivalry. It's perfectly possible that the reason June forged out such a successful career for herself was because she was trying to be as good as she may have seen Pam as being. It might follow that she felt the need to emulate her in all things. I would agree that 10pm is rather late to make a phone call but without knowing what may have been her usual practice, and taking harvest time into consideration as a possible variable, I can't make any further comment.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, I've spoken previously about sibling rivalry. It's perfectly possible that the reason June forged out such a successful career for herself was because she was trying to be as good as she may have seen Pam as being. It might follow that she felt the need to emulate her in all things. I would agree that 10pm is rather late to make a phone call but without knowing what may have been her usual practice, and taking harvest time into consideration as a possible variable, I can't make any further comment.

There was something going on under the surface. The Boutflours and Bambers rarely socialized together, which may have increased June's anxiety and increased the feeling of isolation among her children. It was Betty Howie who stood bail for Jeremy, possibly as a reaction against Robert's "cuckoo in the nest" remark, which may have hit home to Betty, who herself was taken into the family by Auntie Mabel after her real mother died shortly after childbirth.

[Jane]

There was something going on under the surface. The Boutflours and Bambers rarely socialized together, which may have increased June's anxiety and increased the feeling of isolation among her children. It was Betty Howie who stood bail for Jeremy, possibly as a reaction against Robert's "cuckoo in the nest" remark, which may have hit home to Betty, who herself was taken into the family by Auntie Mabel after her real mother died shortly after childbirth.

Steve, there is ALWAYS something going on under the surface. Very rarely does one get what one sees. It may well be that Betty Howie reacted to -and took personally- what RWB said.

[Caroline]

But Pam doesn't mention anything about it?
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She may not have thought it relevant after what had happened-----as no-one would,would they ?

It would have been completely relevant.

[lookout]

It would have been completely relevant.

I'm thinking back about Pam when she asked how Jeremy was,knowing how the others had felt. I've often wondered what made her say this as it's most odd that someone should ask after the health of someone who'd " killed her sister ".
Meaning that Pam would have been unlikely to have mentioned any meeting after already speaking out of place once. Pam has kept a lot to herself to my mind.