When the enquiry changed from a suicide to murder did the relatives have alibis?

[John]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

You don't give DNA, it is extracted from blood etc... which are probably still being retained from the original samples given.

[paulg]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

Really Jon, where would i find that information? Thats interesting.

[Hartley]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

What would that imply then?

When was that, in 1996 wasn't it (I'm not sure) ?

Make of it what you will !! Myself if i nothing to hide i would give mine willingly , hoping i could put this all to bed once and for all .

Maybe, or maybe they just wanted to get on with their lives. Maybe they thought that giving DNA would not put this to bed at all, maybe they thought giving DNA would prove that they were involved in framing JB, maybe they didn't want to give his defence any more ammunition. Maybe, maybe maybe.

[John]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

What would that imply then?

When was that, in 1996 wasn't it (I'm not sure) ?

Make of it what you will !! Myself if i nothing to hide i would give mine willingly , hoping i could put this all to bed once and for all .

Maybe, or maybe they just wanted to get on with their lives. Maybe they thought that giving DNA would not put this to bed at all, maybe they thought giving DNA would prove that they were involved in framing JB, maybe they didn't want to give his defence any more ammunition. Maybe, maybe maybe.

Maybe they know he is guilty, after all, they are best placed to know what the guy was capable of.  If I were in their boots I would tell the authorities to get lost too.   

[Jackiepreece]

Jon

+1 Jon nothing to hide hmmm

Let's hope they are forced to in the future


John what organisation would that be then?

[grahameb]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

You don't give DNA, it is extracted from blood etc... which are probably still being retained from the original samples given.

Didn't one of the relatives have the same blood group as Sheila? I seem to remember reading something about it somewhere.

[grahameb]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

You don't give DNA, it is extracted from blood etc... which are probably still being retained from the original samples given.

I think your DNA can be taken from anything? I think what they do when someone gives their consent is that they take a swab from inside the mouth? Can't be sure though?

[andrea]

thats right grahame, or they take hair samples

[John]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

You don't give DNA, it is extracted from blood etc... which are probably still being retained from the original samples given.

Didn't one of the relatives have the same blood group as Sheila? I seem to remember reading something about it somewhere.

The prosecution later conceded that Sheila's blood group (A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1) matched that of Robert Boutflour, Jeremy's uncle, who was present when the silencer was found.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-455875/Is-Bambis-killer-innocent.html#ixzz1MEjFF1cN
 

[Hartley]

Hartley are you saying you have never made a comment regarding the fact you think I have some kind of close relationship with JB it's constant you belong to the little click of people who believe that I would only help someone because I am in a relationship with them and infact because of work and research I have done on this case a lot of people have contacted me about other miscarriages of justice and I would support anyone I beleived to be innocent.

Erm yes I absolutely will say I have made no such comment, there's challenge number two for you, go find a post to prove me wrong please!

Plus you say you support someone, that's fine, but please don't accuse me of being anti-Bamber or anti-anyone either, unless again you can point to anything that I have posted which would support that.

I am pretty fair in what I say for the most part, you obviously never finish reading my posts.

How do you breathe, eat or drink with all these bitter accusations and allegations flowing out of every orifice 24 hours a day?

Let's do some Jackie badgering    (that doesn't sound right), can you find anything which would achieve your challenges that I've set you? Or will you admit that you are wrong? Talking bollocks perhaps?

And the 'I'm a friend of the relatives trophy' evidence is still up for grabs if you want it?

[John]

Not so much badgering but getting right up her nose.   

I look forward to the encounter in the Queens Head.

[Hartley]

Jon

+1 Jon nothing to hide hmmm

Let's hope they are forced to in the future


John what organisation would that be then?

Why hope?

Just for purely speculation and discussion purposes, let's say we just got the DNA results of the relatives, you decide what the results are, for the purpose of this argument. What would any result prove, matter, insinuate?

[Jackiepreece]

I am working in-between having fun reading your posts I need to be sitting in front of my computer to go back over old posts but I will be doing it don't worry about that


John what was the organisation you have invited Chochokeira and myself to come to we are both always interested in miscarriages of justice

[Hartley]

I am working in-between having fun reading your posts I need to be sitting in front of my computer to go back over old posts but I will be doing it don't worry about that

Really I'm not.

But I can post some new ones if you like, that way you would have something to quote? The quote button is in the top right hand corner by the way, if your I-phone can go far right?

[jon]

Another point, referring to the title of this thread, didn't the relatives have blood samples taken to eliminate them from their inquiries into the silencer discovery?

I have no doubt whatsoever that they were questioned with sufficient attention to detail to eliminate them from being a suspect.

No amount of ranting or slanderous utter piffle (  ) will change that.

They refused to give DNA samples , upon the discovery of DNA !!

Really Jon, where would i find that information? Thats interesting.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/blood-2002-appeal