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The kitchen window
« on: September 14, 2016, 05:03:PM »
Ann has described how she could gain access to whf through the kitchen window, and lock it again from the outside. It begs the question why she would break into the farm.
She never mentioned that she needed  any form of tool to gain entry, so why is the hacksaw blade have been mentioned?
For whatever reason she felt the need to break into the farm she never said she needed some sort of tool to do so.
It makes me angry that Boutflour said nobody wins. YES THEY DID.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 05:09:PM »
Ann has described how she could gain access to whf through the kitchen window, and lock it again from the outside. It begs the question why she would break into the farm.
She never mentioned that she needed  any form of tool to gain entry, so why is the hacksaw blade have been mentioned?
For whatever reason she felt the need to break into the farm she never said she needed some sort of tool to do so.
It makes me angry that Boutflour said nobody wins. YES THEY DID.

She didn't break in. After the murders she said they looked at the windows to see if it 'could' be done and found that the kitchen window could be locked from the outside.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 05:13:PM »
She didn't break in. After the murders she said they looked at the windows to see if it 'could' be done and found that the kitchen window could be locked from the outside.
Sorry Caroline, she said that she broke in on many occasions.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 05:15:PM »
Ann has described how she could gain access to whf through the kitchen window, and lock it again from the outside. It begs the question why she would break into the farm.
She never mentioned that she needed  any form of tool to gain entry, so why is the hacksaw blade have been mentioned?
For whatever reason she felt the need to break into the farm she never said she needed some sort of tool to do so.

The hacksaw blade is related to downstairs bathroom window.

As for the kitchen window. You can see a bottle and various other items infront of the window, This would make it rather difficult for anyone to leave via that window and leave all those things in place IMO.



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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 05:23:PM »
The hacksaw blade is related to downstairs bathroom window.

As for the kitchen window. You can see a bottle and various other items infront of the window, This would make it rather difficult for anyone to leave via that window and leave all those things in place IMO.
Yes David I was unsure what window was used. Whatever window was used, Ann seemed to know.
The question remains is why Ann broke into the farm at all.
It seems that access was common knowledge within the family.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 05:29:PM »
It makes me angry that Boutflour said nobody wins. YES THEY DID.
Same

He sais it in the 2005 documentary also. What a goofball!  >:(

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 05:30:PM »
Yes David I was unsure what window was used. Whatever window was used, Ann seemed to know.
The question remains is why Ann broke into the farm at all.
It seems that access was common knowledge within the family.

I saw Jeremy said that he and other members of the family used to do that but I never heard Anne mentioned? The impression I got was that June being strict it was done to stop her knowing if they came in late from a night out?

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 05:31:PM »
The whole family knew how to get into the farm.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 05:32:PM »
I saw Jeremy said that he and other members of the family used to do that but I never heard Anne mentioned? The impression I got was that June being strict it was done to stop her knowing if they came in late from a night out?
It was in the last video.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 05:41:PM »
The family were suspiscious. So will check windows. Although may already know about the lockable from outside kitchen window.

The relatives were given the keys for WHF by Stan Jones. Bamber was in Amsterdam buying drugs.

The hacksaw blade is what Bamber said he used to gain access into WHF  through the bathroom window.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2016, 05:42:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 05:44:PM »
It was in the last video.

Last one on here ? Or last as in most recent?

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 06:38:PM »
Yes David I was unsure what window was used. Whatever window was used, Ann seemed to know.
The question remains is why Ann broke into the farm at all.
It seems that access was common knowledge within the family.

Where is it mentioned that Ann broke in?
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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2016, 07:13:PM »
The family were suspiscious. So will check windows. Although may already know about the lockable from outside kitchen window.

The relatives were given the keys for WHF by Stan Jones. Bamber was in Amsterdam buying drugs.

The hacksaw blade is what Bamber said he used to gain access into WHF  through the bathroom window.


Source for where Jeremy said he used that hacksaw on that window that night? Otherwise it's irrelevant.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2016, 07:14:PM by Jan »

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2016, 07:34:PM »

Source for where Jeremy said he used that hacksaw on that window that night? Otherwise it's irrelevant.

What night ? He said it was his and he used to use it to gain access into WHF through the bathroom window.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The kitchen window
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2016, 07:43:PM »
What night ? He said it was his and he used to use it to gain access into WHF through the bathroom window.



And? Unless he admitted he did that on the night of the murders it does not prove anything. He never tried to hide how he and others got in and out of  whf . But he did dispute the window locking from the outside , and no I am not going to revisit that argument because it just goes round and round in circles.